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Sick Oscar or just finicky? 4 years ago #12869

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Ok, this is long and to start, I know I did a ton of stuff wrong.
I bought a 55 gallon tank and set it up with driftwood and rocks. Play sand for substrate. I added salt and dechlorinated the water. I used a thing called cycle to cycle the tank more quickly. I took a filter pad from an established livebearer tank.
Here's where things went wrong. I added fish. 2 catfish, a silver dollar, a small(1 in) tiger oscar and a med? (1.5)red oscar.
The red was eating great for a day. I bought feeders (stupid)and he ate 2. He quit eating. He got white poop, layed around a few days. Yesterday I put my hand in the tank and he swam into it and lay down. I cried. I went to store and got Parasite Clear. I put it in the tank and 2 hours later he was dead. The tiger is fine, I guess, but was freaking out after I removed the body. (Tiger is now named Cody for his codependant attitude.) I buried the fish out by the garden.
The store gave me a new Tiger Oscar (2.5), and I put the new tiger in the tank. (Cody attached to him right away. Stuck like glue.)
The problem is, the new oscar also has white stringy poo and isn't eating. I am at my wits end.
I am changing 25 -40% of the water every time the ammonia gets above .25 and I am vacuuming the sand surface as well. This is usually every two days. I raised the temp to 82 and added Parasite Clear yesterday.
All of the fish are fine except the Oscars.
Help. I know I did tons wrong but why are the other fish ok?
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Re:Sick Oscar or just finicky? 4 years ago #12871

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okay to begin with, your tank is not big enough for two Oscars so you should really only have the one. The only way you could confirm that your fish had parasites was to get the waste examined under a microscope. However, White Fish waste is sometimes an indication of an internal parasite. This cycle stuff does not instantly cycle tank, I want to make that absolutely clear. Many people are on the impression that it does and they just put all the fish in the tank together far too soon.

Cycle does work to a certain extent, but only if you add fish very gradually.I have only ever used on a very small community tank where it did work. Without going into complicated detail, I think that cycle actually works by introducing free swimming bacteria that consume Ammonia in the water, rather than adding bacteria to the filtration system. because you are adding it on a regular basis, the free swimming bacteria are consuming the Ammonia while the bacteria have time to grow in the filtration system. Sorry if you do understand this, you have to know little bit about how the biological filter works to really understand what I'm talking about.

anyway, what you have got to do is test your water for ammonia, nitrite and pH. How long has the tank been set up for? If you are going to continue having ammonia present, you could actually benefit from using something like prime, this will detoxify ammonia so the environment is a little safer to your fish.I would also suggest not vacuuming the gravel, you want to try and conserve as much bacteria as you can, Cleaning de Sand will actually remove some of the bacteria.

I would advise you to carry out a 25% water change every other day until your Ammonia and nitrite are zero. you will also need a nitrate test kit. It is very important that you start testing this, once you start seeing a nitrate reading, you will know that your bacteria are present in your biological filter. It will nitrate stays at zero all the time, there aren't any beneficial bacteria working properly.
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Re:Sick Oscar or just finicky? 4 years ago #12872

one thing is that one a little older then the other. So it might be able to handle things a little better. the other thing is that u have to many fish in that tank. they say only one O for a 55g by him self. also what kind of Filter do u use.

Re:Sick Oscar or just finicky? 4 years ago #12873

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Ok, I know all of this NOW. As for filtration, I have added media from an established tank and added the cycle. My ammonia level is .25 and nitrates are barely registering. Thanks for the info on not vacuuming as often. I am currently doing water changes every other day. I understand how biological filters work just fine now. I have read almost every page on this site. Some twice. I will get some prime today. The 55 is a temp tank until I can get a 125 which will work for them when they are larger. IF I can keep em alive that long. The filter is a Whisper 60. I am going to buy another today and some Flagyl. The older one is the sick one.
Thanks for all the great info.
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Re:Sick Oscar or just finicky? 4 years ago #12876

is a good place to get alot of the stuff u need for your tank check it out but if u can get a pick mabey that will help

Re:Sick Oscar or just finicky? 4 years ago #12882

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Thanks for the help. I got a second filter today and some medicated food as well as Jungle Labs "Hole in The Head Guard" which is basically flagyl. The bigger Oscar actually ate some of the medicated (flagyl) food and some krill. I also bought some ammo chips to help keep the ammonia down between water changes which are 25% every other day unless tests show more is needed. I am stoked that he is eating something and actually swimming around. As for the pic. He looks normal except for the white clearish poops which have ceased for now. All total I spent close to 150 bucks on fish stuff today but if it works it's worth it.
Thanks again.
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