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Why You Shouldn't Use Salt For Freshwater Fish 2 years, 5 months ago #64167

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This is an interesting read, make of it what you wish

Salt Kills Freshwater Fish and Shuts Down Their Kidneys.

Some disturbing news has been going around that states salt levels above 0.3% are going to cure your fish if they are all broken out in sores. This is incorrect because salt works by using osmotic pressure, and therefore will not kill bacteria that are in the fish's bloodstream. These bacteria cause diseases.

Salt will also damage your bio filter and cause high ammonia levels.

We have received call after call from Koi pond hobbyists, and tropical fish hobbyists in the last couple of months, that have ruined their pond, and/or killed their tropical fish due to over-salting. Unfortunately the salt takes awhile (a month to three months) to kill the fish. So most folks do not understand.

We have a very high success rate with our healing and treatment techniques. If you want to save your fish, please take some time to read the material in the Koi pond section of our disease library

Some of these infections caused by using salt include:

Hemorrhagic Septicemia (red streaks in body and/or fins).

Saprolegnia Fungus (white cottony puffs on skin, fins or tail).

Pseudomonas Bacteria (Fin and Tail Rot).

Aeromonas Bacteria (Sores on body with ulcerations).

Heavy slime covering the fish. The fish produce heavy slime as a defense against the high salt levels.

Extreme swelling similar to dropsy.

High mortalities, sudden death and complete tank or pond wipe-outs.

Salt at high levels will also destroy the nitrifying bacteria in your filter, that keep your tank or pond cycled and ammonia free. So, if you are using salt and notice abnormally high ammonia or nitrite levels in your water... this is the cause.

Osmotic Pressure On Fish:

The use of salt is being promoted mainly by hobbyists in chat rooms, that have little or no understanding of fish pathology or osmotic pressure on fish and how this works. This is a case of hobbyists, consulting to hobbyists can be detrimental to the health of your fish.

**In the ocean, fish will swim into freshwater to rid themselves of parasites, and then swim back into the ocean. The fish do this only for a few minutes, and then return to their natural environment. The reason that the parasites fall off is due to increased osmotic pressure. When you put a marine fish into freshwater, it is like putting a heavy weight on top of the fish. So, this does not mean that this will work for freshwater fish the same way... in fact it will not work, due to the fact that you are putting fish into an environment with a much lighter amount of osmotic pressure.

Testing The Salt Theory:

A good way to test the salt theory, would be to set up 2 aquariums.

1.) Salt one aquarium (tank 1) according to the instructions that were given to you and use a dechlorinator, if you are using tap water.

2.) In (tank 2), use a nitrifying bacteria like our Aqua Gold, and a good dechlorinator for your tap water. Do not add any salt to this tank.

3.) Go down to your local fish store and purchase a dozen fish of your choice. Tell the fish collector to separate them and put 6 fish in each bag.

4.) Get yourself a small note pad, so you can keep a log of events on both aquariums. This experiment will take some time (around 2-3 months) to complete.

So, now let's look at some facts:

Salt is anti-bacterial and anti-viral. This does not mean that it is good for freshwater aquarium or pond fish. You could pour a bottle of Mr. Clean into your aquarium, and we could guarantee that it will kill any living pathogen in there, but it would also kill all of your fish. See our point?

Salt is toxic to your fish if used at high levels for long periods of time. It will shut down their kidney's, and that is why so many people have fish with "pop-eye" or fish that have the same symptom's as Dropsy. Salt is toxic to humans if ingested in quantity, and high salt levels are toxic to animals. Use some common sense with the information we have provided for you, and remember that if salt was such a great treatment option, we would have not been in business for so long.

Information obtained from www.fishyfarmacy.com/
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Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt 2 years, 5 months ago #64170

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cheers for the heads up, no freshwater needs salt, that's why there called fresh water.

Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt 2 years, 5 months ago #64173

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So, what will be the future advice, where as we suggested to use some epsom salt in case of some diseases?
Will we advice against it now?
I do not remember any posts of OFL-ers' fish dying after 3 months of introducing salt...
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Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt 2 years, 5 months ago #64175

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I don't think people use salts because they think freshwater fish need it, I think people believe it is some kind of tonic to keep them healthy, I've never used it, I never will.
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Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt 2 years, 5 months ago #64197

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OFL wrote:
I don't think people use salts because they think freshwater fish need it, I think people believe it is some kind of tonic to keep them healthy, I've never used it, I never will.


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Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt 2 years, 5 months ago #64206

what do you guys mean salts first off i thought the only salt for freshwater was AQUARIUM SALT

Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt 2 years, 5 months ago #64236

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OFL wrote:
I don't think people use salts because they think freshwater fish need it, I think people believe it is some kind of tonic to keep them healthy, I've never used it, I never will.



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Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt 2 years, 5 months ago #64243

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nice article....
however, i have to stand unto my understanding about it.

First of all, in all fresh water, salt is present since it is a mineral and
available in nature. to much of it is toxic to fresh water creatures but a
moderation will help enhance hard water condition. (water treatment) sea water
become salty because it hold all the salt being carried by the water cycle whenever
it rains. salt never evaporates, thus, the rain contains no salt but salt in the
nature will be carried by flowing water toward the sea.

in an open wound, when medicine is not available, salt is being used to control
infection, the reason why it is a relief staying in sea water when you have infected
open wound.

salt in moderation help soot and comfort injured fishes....this is the main reason
why i always give the ideal salt dosage for every gal size of water.

just sharing how i understand salt.

Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt 2 years, 5 months ago #64330

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hmmm not sure where I stand now. on the fence I guess. I don't really use it but always thought it helped some meds work better. Koi owners take great care of there fish in general so I am not surprised they have looked into this deeply. when the cost of fish become high people tend to spend more time and effort in what they are doing. It would not surprise me if its true.
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Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt 2 years, 5 months ago #64331

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I found this listed on another site which has alot of good info regarding the use of salt.
edis.ifas.ufl.edu/pdffiles/VM/VM00700.pdf

Enjoy.

Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt 2 years, 5 months ago #64332

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salt or no salt would be fine...this is just a matter of exchange of ideas.
my understanding with salt started when i work as machine room tender at the
hotel operation. i had attended a lot of seminar for chiller or cooling tower
water cycle wherein salt is being used to soften hard water. then when i train for
fish cage culture, salt is always mentioned in case some diseases arises... thus,
it instill in my mind.... salt in moderation is good...excessive salt is always
toxic except on preservation of some fresh meat and the like.

having said that, i always get pointer in new finding with such experiment.
thus people invested in their time and resources to study it, thus, they must
command an authority on it....however, conventional knowledge had been there
since the discovery of salt....nothing to loose in believing with it too

Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt 2 years, 5 months ago #64349

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I've used salt for 5 years without any of those symptoms. I guess it would depend on how much you used. When I don't have salt they do just as well as with it so it don't seem like one of the most important things to me. When my Terror was sick salt was the first thing he ate and after 3 or 4 times of that he started eating. This will always be an ongoing debate. As long as you love them and do your best and get your advice on OFL they'll be fine
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