Support Forum
Welcome, Guest
Username Password: Remember me
You must register first

Mouth always open
(1 viewing) (1) Guest
  • Page:
  • 1
  • 2

TOPIC: Mouth always open

Mouth always open 2 years ago #93050

  • MaxLab
  • ( User )
  • OFFLINE
  • Fresh Boarder
  • Posts: 4
Hi all, I have my oscar since october and it seems in good condition. But, since 1 month approximativly my oscar doesn't close his mouth anymore it seems to be lock. My oscar is eating pallets, but it takes him some times and he is only "aspirating" the pallets into his mouth. Also it seems less agressive than he was used to be. Finally, the water condition are good.

Is there something I can do or should I let him like this because it can eat and it doesn't look to suffer.

I have a picture (bad quality sorry) www.hapshack.com/images/pict0080.jpg


(Sorry if my english is bad, it isn't my first language)

Thank you for your time

Re:Mouth always open 2 years ago #93051

  • PAUL
  • ( Visitor )
first of all...welcome on board

the picture shows that the gill covers are flaring up too... as if
your fish is attacking the reflection.... a picture alone could not
give us good evaluation basis..... perhaps a short video will do

Re:Mouth always open 2 years ago #93057

  • kazzy60
  • ( Visitor )
can you tell us what your readings are, ?, could he have eating a catfish,

Re:Mouth always open 2 years ago #93059

his mouth is frozen like that constantly?

Re:Mouth always open 2 years ago #93092

  • MaxLab
  • ( User )
  • OFFLINE
  • Fresh Boarder
  • Posts: 4
Yes his mouth is frozen like that constantly and he is alone in the tank so he didn't get attacked by anything. I'll take a video tonight when my camera will be back and I'll give you the reading at the same time.


Edit: I found my old camera and I took the video (sorry for the medium quality)

Last Edit: 2 years ago by MaxLab.

Re:Mouth always open 2 years ago #93101

  • Nicki--Sue
  • ( Admin )
  • OFFLINE
  • Administrator
  • DONT QUIT!!!!!
  • Posts: 17428
That is the oddest thing I think I have ever seen... Hmmm. Hopefully someone will know what is going on because I am at a loss!
It's NOT smart to piss off the girl with the BAN button!

My Youtube Channel
www.youtube.com/user/Nickisue1022?feature=mhee

Re:Mouth always open 2 years ago #93116

Here's a response from to someone else who had the same problem...

Sometimes cichlids damage their mouths by extending it out too much or hitting the bottom or side of the tank getting food. There is a little bone that runs down the center of the forehead. When the mouth is extended too far this bone sticks and the bone can not be retracted. Sometimes the bone slips back in place and the mouth heals over time. Other times it stays stuck and there is not too much that can be done. Some aquarists have tried to manipulate this forehead bone with limited success. If it looks like it is not getting back to normal in a weak I would think about trying to work it back in before it calcifies in place. Good Luck.


"If it has been lip locking it is possible that it has a dislocated jaw. This has also been known to happen to Oscars that aggressively attack the glass, to the point that they dislocate the jaw. It is important to try to pop the jaw back into place as soon as you notice it. The longer it stays that way, the less likely you will be able to do it. I have never had this problem myself, but recently talked to some other experienced fish keepers about it. The way I heard it done was the fish was submerged in a net as the jaw was carefully massaged and eased back and forth, ultimately into its natural position. It took some time, and patience, but well worth it.

I hope this helps, give it a try. sometimes the fish can naturally put it back into place itself, usually when yawning, but if yours has been like this for a while, it probably can't and you need to do it yourself. In the wild if this happens from lip locking, the fish with the dislocated jaw will end up dieing from starvation. If you cannot fix the problem, try talking to a experienced fish store and see if they have any experience with this, if so see if they would be willing to try fixing your fish for you. Other than that you would have to euthanize the fish to save it from a slow death.
"

To me it looks as if the lower jaw might be dislocated, necessitating massaging the lower sides of the jaw where it connects with the upper. I think the gill flaring is simply a side effect of the extended jaw/mouth position and the consequent intake of water.

At first I thought perhaps there might be some sort of disease that could cause lock-jaw of a sort in Oscars, but I found nothing to that effect. I thought it might be a good idea to research that possibility first before subjecting yourself and your oscar to the quite stressful procedure of trying to 'massage his jaw back into place.' Anyways, I would do it at this point...sometimes I've heard they work themselves back into place, but if it's been a while already I would go ahead and try it as opposed to having him not be able to eat sufficiently or euthanizing him.
Last Edit: 2 years ago by johnnyphoenix.

Re:Mouth always open 2 years ago #93130

  • Nicki--Sue
  • ( Admin )
  • OFFLINE
  • Administrator
  • DONT QUIT!!!!!
  • Posts: 17428
I think Johnny is right on, and I think I would try to put it back as well. I can't see how he can live like this...
It's NOT smart to piss off the girl with the BAN button!

My Youtube Channel
www.youtube.com/user/Nickisue1022?feature=mhee

Re:Mouth always open 2 years ago #93132

  • OFL
  • ( Admin )
  • OFFLINE
  • Administrator
  • Don't Make Me Ban You
  • Posts: 9871
It is probably a female Oscar

Joking aside, it's not something I have seen before, if the fish is feeding okay and seems otherwise in good health and I shouldn't worry too much for the moment
I may not always be right, but I am always the boss
If you can't ignore an insult, top it; if you can't top it, laugh it off; and if you can't laugh it off, it's probably deserved

Re:Mouth always open 2 years ago #93151

  • PAUL
  • ( Visitor )
i had show the short video to the breeder in my place and told me you need to
net the fish and close its mouth manually. apparently, your o develops a
relaxed jaw muscle, opposite of the lock jaw for people like us. just be careful in netting to avoid further damage.

Re:Mouth always open 2 years ago #93167

  • JamieM
  • ( Visitor )
What a bl**dy shame hope you get ur girl sorted mate.... Jamie

Re:Mouth always open 2 years ago #93183

  • Noddy
  • ( Moderator )
  • OFFLINE
  • Moderator
  • Posts: 9873
Good luck, and please keep us posted!
Our fish don't grow too big, our tank becomes too small!
Plecofanatic
Primitive fish Keeper : Florida Gar
OscarFishLover!
  • Page:
  • 1
  • 2
Moderators: Necromancer4 , Noddy , JasonR

Time to create page: 0.94 seconds

Oscarfishlover Facebook FanBox