i was told finally that this grayish specie was called bronze oscar. I am not sure how true it is but i will take it as is. Please try to figure out the sizes of them: at the background is a 4 inches mermaid figure plus a regular size billiard ball.

they look big..how big are they?

A month ago, one of them weigh 1.5 kg (weight of bucket w/water & oscer less wt of bucket & water without oscar). Difficult to measure coz they keep on moving & sometimes bite my hand.

By the way, I had read the literature posted at home page, I never had experienced with HITH in all my oscars (my first were tiger oscar w/gold markings, my 2nd were albino w/ gold markings too, and these two pairs they called bronze oscar).

Nevertheless, I am intrigue to have my water tested sooner.

those are some beautiful oscars,,,,,,love that white<is it a pang?

yah, I was told that white specie that we used to call hammerhead is a pangasius sutchi. I have a pair, 1 black & 1 white. all of them are 18 months old by now including my angle fish