ehall67 wrote: thats a good read nina ... makes me feel like doing that with a old 10 gal ... it seems really easy

just check with your house mates first

not everyone likes having worms around, and they do smell a bit of mossy forest (that's a fairly generous interpretation of the smell)

nina you're my hero lol thanks and as for room mates i dont really care what they think as the worms will be in my room

black,orangeoscar wrote: but what do you guys have to say about the article on this website, it said its okay to feed quarantined feeders, and fish grow big off live food. the can be misleading to beginners, cause who doesn't want their oscar to grow big and lets face it most people buy oscars cause they seem to be a mean aggressive fish so why wouldnt they use feeders.

you make a good point, black, orangeoscar. When Penn sees this, it would be good to hear what he says. If he doesn't, it may be worth writing to him. I wonder if there is truth to this, that live foods make them grow. Experiments, and experience, have showed time and again that in aquariums, with our current quality foods, clean water is much more of a limiting factor to growth than diet.

can anyone help me with my midas tank mate post?

TheLatinoFishLover wrote: can anyone help me with my midas tank mate post?

Here's the thing w/ that.......you can get fish HUGE, like I did, by feeding high-quality, high protein prepared foods, suplementing w/ live food, like giant mealworms & nightcrawlers, & doing frequent, massive WC's, & never giving them a feeder fish. Take a look @ my Jag, he's around 2 years old, & he's 13" long,& I've never given him feeder fish of any kind.

i do a 40% watter change about every 10 days and that has helped my fish grow but ill start raising worms

Fishguy66 (if you'll pardon me for sharing) changes 75% of his water every day. His jaguar recently made a spectacular recovery from jumping our of the tank - largely due to large, daily water changes.

I regularly change 70% every 5 days, more so if anything goes wrong. Three days ago my oscar bashed herself silly on her lid, those wounds are all but healed today (except the cut above her eye, but that's really deep) with daily 70% changes. All my fish grow really well.

Discuss keepers do 90% or more every day, sometimes two or three times a day.

Step up your water changes, see what the effect is

Nina_W wrote:

ehall67 wrote: thats a good read nina ... makes me feel like doing that with a old 10 gal ... it seems really easy

just check with your house mates first

glad you wrote this ....

I checked ....

apparently the line is drawn with fish

fishguy66 wrote: ...Take a look @ my Jag, he's around 2 years old, & he's 13" long,& I've never given him feeder fish of any kind.

Speaking of Butch, how's he doing since his extra-tank excursion?