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TOPIC: Plecos

Plecos 1 year, 9 months ago #106216

I was on the petsmart site and looking at the live fish section and i came across a common pleco pic and i looked at the info section of the fish and it says they get 24 inches and that they only need a TEN GALLON TANK WTF! is that true i mean even the oscar fish info says they need 40-55 im confuzed lol is it just the lfs place or do plecos just not need much room?

Re: Plecos 1 year, 9 months ago #106218

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Pleco's have the amazing ability to breath air through their stomach.
The bigger plecos can even survive out of the water for upto 30 hours.
At asian markets they are displayed out of the water.
But i would keep a pleco like that in at least an 8 foot tank, if it's a common pleco.

And i'm sure the shop owner lives in an appartment the size of a refridgerator and thinks that is normal too.
Our fish don't grow too big, our tank becomes too small!
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Re: Plecos 1 year, 9 months ago #106219

well idk about where you live but by me theres two chain petstores petco and petsmart those stores are from what i know in the Us nationwide so i trust what they say cause they have been around for a long ass time.

Re: Plecos 1 year, 9 months ago #106221

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trust whomever you like...
No matter what country you live in, common plecos cannot be kept in 10Gl tanks.
Our fish don't grow too big, our tank becomes too small!
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Re: Plecos 1 year, 9 months ago #106223

wow idk why they post that do they grow to the size of the tank or something? im not a pleco expert but i know plecos are good for algea problems

Re: Plecos 1 year, 9 months ago #106227

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send them an email, to point out their mistake.
You needn't be a pleco expert to check any info on the tank requirements for common plecos.
10Gl is ridiculous, and i'm sure it's a typo, maybe a zero fell off, and they meant 100Gl...
And no, a pleco will not grow as big as the tank.
He'll outgrow the tank and won't be able to turn around in no time.

And with some species of plecos you may be lucky to have them clean some algae.
I've had 7 plecos, and only 2 of them did any significant algae cleaning.
They will add to you bioload, regardless if they clean algae or not.
Our fish don't grow too big, our tank becomes too small!
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Re: Plecos 1 year, 9 months ago #106231

what are catfish good for

Re: Plecos 1 year, 9 months ago #106233

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to look at, if your lucky and they're not hiding.
Our fish don't grow too big, our tank becomes too small!
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Re: Plecos 1 year, 9 months ago #106246

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Matt petshops dont know shit...for a start large plecos like that create alot of waste and effect the water quality of the tank they are in...if water changes are not kept up.

Not to mention swimming room etc etc
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Re: Plecos 1 year, 9 months ago #106263

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Matt E. fish lover wrote:
well idk about where you live but by me theres two chain petstores petco and petsmart those stores are from what i know in the Us nationwide so i trust what they say cause they have been around for a long ass time.


DON'T TRUST THEM EVER!!! Why would you trust people who normally don't have tanks themselves, and work for $7 an hour... They don't give a shit about your fish! If it dies, you will come back an buy more!
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Re: Plecos 1 year, 9 months ago #106268

...but it also says 55 gallons plus and their maximum size is 24 inches.

Product Description: Item: 3954163

* Diet: Algae Wafers, Fresh Vegetables
* Maximum size: 24"
* Water temperature: 72-82° F
* Swimming level: Bottom
* Experience level: Beginner
* Tank Setup: 55+ gallons


Still, 55 gallons is most likely going to be too small for an adult common pleco anyways, even by itself.

And even though it says 'beginner' it then goes on in the description to say "Algae eaters should not be kept by beginners or in a community aquarium with delicate fish. As adults, they can be aggressive to other tankmates and should be housed with large, tough fish or as a single species in the aquarium."

I would think beginners who would be turning to 'petsmart' for their information rarely, if ever, get plecos to house by themselves anways. How many beginners go into the store thinking, 'hey, I want a nocturnal fish who hides under a rock out of view all day, produces disgustingly visible copious amounts of waste, is a mottled dark brown/black color, and grows to massive size.' Not many, probably (perhaps Noddy did, but he thinks everyone should "plecostomus, like the rest of us"). And how many beginners are going to, indeed should be housing them with large, tough fish?

The biggest mistake is by beginners who buy them to basically be a 'cleanup fish' without realizing:

A. They have negligible, if any, real cleanup effect, and regardless need supplementation to their diet. Sadly, many plecos starve b/c their owners think they only need the nutrients that the tank produces. This can also lead to sucking on the slime coats of other fish, leading to owners to come to the mistaken conclusion that they are aggressive rather than a simple response to insufficient food availability. This is endemic of the idea that a pleco is a 'trash fish' that is only there as a auxiliary for the other, more valuable, 'display' fish. There are a ton of 'Pleco fanatics' in Battlestar Galactica and Star Trek T-shirts who would wholeheartedly disagree. too.

B. They produce far, far more waste than they clean. Far, far, far, far, far, more waste.

C. The most common species sold in pet stores grow to massive size. This is precipitated by nutrition and water quality primarily, so 'growing to the size of the tank' is a misconception, for the most part.
Last Edit: 1 year, 9 months ago by johnnyphoenix.

Re: Plecos 1 year, 9 months ago #106280

ya i dont get why they put that i dont want a pleco i was just wondering thats weird a 2' pleco in a like two foot tank thats just sad
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