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Arapaima 2 years, 3 months ago #78448

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Did any of you guys see the Sky documentary on the arapaima. I just came across this. It makes me sad to think people will kill rare animals and fish without a care for there survival.


news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8428000/8428949.stm

animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/fish/arapaima.html
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Re:Arapaima 2 years, 3 months ago #78462

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That fish is on the top of most "big game fisherman" and i surely would love to catch one of those one day.
On the other hand killing that fish in the proces would definatly spoil all the fun of catching it.
I don't get some people although one fish can feed a lot of families for a long time.
I'd rather swim with them.
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Re:Arapaima 2 years, 3 months ago #78464

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yeah thats what i thought. its a monster fish, and would surely put up a great fight, but as said, I'd love to watch it go back. the problem with catching them is cos they are so tired they drown in the water when released. you got to float them and make sure they are ok. arowana have a simular problem when stressed, they roll over. ) I would love to go to the amazon.
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Re:Arapaima 2 years, 3 months ago #78475

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Yes, truly a superb fish. Actually, they are stocked at dream lakes in Thailand, I think they run up to around 200lb, obviously not native to Thailand, they have a lake that is stocked with lots of South American fish.

I have seen various programs on sky recently and they still eat them down in the Amazon but they are trying to protect them because they are becoming much rarer these days.
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Re:Arapaima 2 years, 3 months ago #78476

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its a difficult one this.. on the one hand I agree its criminal to kill these animals, but on the other hand there are people whose whole existence revolves around getting enough food to feed their family (or money derived from selling the food on)...

I think the increase in tourist fishing holidays helps, as the locals can get money from the tourists if they protect the fish, perhaps this is what should be encouraged...

you'll never stop poaching, but I suppose if you could get the locals on side it would be a lot easier to police..

Just my opinion..

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Re:Arapaima 2 years, 3 months ago #78479

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I just have to repost this bit of River Monsters if we are talking Arapaima.



1min19sec: They might be a little tired this time.
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Re:Arapaima 2 years, 3 months ago #78483

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River monsters is the program i watched. your video don't work Noddy ) and yep I agree with you there Tony. but then again how many fishermen would to the amazon to fish. then they would won't to mount it in a box for the wall.(( lol there's no fix.(

its worth going to you tube to watch river monsters.
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Re:Arapaima 2 years, 3 months ago #78487

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marcus wrote:
River monsters is the program i watched. your video don't work Noddy )

its worth going to you tube to watch river monsters.


Embedding disabled on request...sorry bout that.
That wasn't like that before, if i remember right.
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Re:Arapaima 2 years, 3 months ago #78491

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TonyT wrote:
its a difficult one this.. on the one hand I agree its criminal to kill these animals, but on the other hand there are people whose whole existence revolves around getting enough food to feed their family (or money derived from selling the food on)...

I think the increase in tourist fishing holidays helps, as the locals can get money from the tourists if they protect the fish, perhaps this is what should be encouraged...

you'll never stop poaching, but I suppose if you could get the locals on side it would be a lot easier to police..

Just my opinion..

T


I agree, I don't suppose the residents of the Amazonian jungle rarely think much about preservation, after all they've got families to feed and if they just put the fish back when they catch them, they will all go hungry. It's easy for us to tell them that they need to protect their fish stocks when all we have to do is walk into a supermarket and buy our food
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Re:Arapaima 2 years, 3 months ago #78620

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and i guess there are more than enough other fish to change to once that specie is ended.( may be our country's should do more about bringing them into the real world with shops or food to trade.
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Re:Arapaima 2 years, 3 months ago #78648

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When Noddy posted that topic about AVILON ZOO in the Philippines, i got
curious and had to see the place.... indeed, they are now breeding the
fish and supplying the need of other Zoo... and i was so happy to know
the place breeds in hundreds per batch.... even with the lost of the
7 footer male...

yeah, i can only wish we could do something to educate people....same is
true with our "butanding", the gentle shark that our people used to hunt
and sell the meat....today, people are constructing good inns for tourist
who wish to swim with the gentle creatures....tourism is another livelihood

Re:Arapaima 2 years, 3 months ago #78660

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OFL wrote:
I agree, I don't suppose the residents of the Amazonian jungle rarely think much about preservation, after all they've got families to feed and if they just put the fish back when they catch them, they will all go hungry. It's easy for us to tell them that they need to protect their fish stocks when all we have to do is walk into a supermarket and buy our food


And because we can walk into the local grocery and buy our food, the PNW Salmon populations are almost nil. We have over-fished ALL the Salmon to the degree where the local biologists and even Fish and Wildlife are saying that wild Salmon won't exist in another 10-20 years. Farm raised Salmon doesn't taste the same, it's not as good for you, and we actually have to dye the meat pink because farm raised fish end up with white meat. Dunno if it's the same for farm raised Arapaima, but once the fishermen can't fish, then they have no income. This town was founded almost 200yrs ago by fishing and logging. They're STILL the biggest industries in the area. It's a generations-old way of life. I'm sure it's the same for the people who fish Arapaima. So it's not just about wildlife preservation, it's also about finding another industry for these people to make a living. No money = no food, fish or not.
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