thanks for your time & info on the temp of water & ph levels. souud like you know your ##$# . I turned my water down anotch. (77-78). I think part of my problem is, that I move my fish aroubnd too much. When I bought them, over a year ago, I only bought 4, maybe I should have bought 6 for breeding purposes. But then again, I do only have a 55 gallon, and a 90 gallon, what would I have done with them all. I know that if I ever actually succeed at breeding, I will definately have to get another tank. They do seem happy in their 55 gallon, they are in there with 5 African cichlids. The other ones are in their 90 gallon with 2 African cichlids, and they get along better than the two that I oringinally thought were a pair, which is why they have less company in their tank.
The two that i originally thought were a pair, were fighting too much, but one of them was not fighting back, so I separated them, and now they are all getting along better. Have you ever heard , or seen oscars breed with other fish in the tank with them, ie:African cichlids???