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Oscar laying on the bottom [Video] 1 year, 11 months ago #101010

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Well, I adopted this oscar when he was 5 inches from a local store, he was badly injured whne i first got him, he lived in a 55 gallon for about 3-4 months and I just transferd him to a 125 gallon not too long ago, he was eating and swimming around, 2 days ago he just started laying on the bottom for no reason at all, the water paremeters are fine, I just tested it not too long ago:
PH - 7.2
Ammonia - 0 ppm
Nitrate - 10 ppm
Nitrite - 0 ppm
Temp - 27c

Theres no sign of anything on him exapt him breathing really hard.. any suggestions?

Re:Oscar laying on the bottom [Video] 1 year, 11 months ago #101013

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Edit:
Things you should know

1-The oscar isnt getting bullied
2-Not using any meds
3-He swims around from time to time then just lays down on the gravel again.
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Re:Oscar laying on the bottom [Video] 1 year, 11 months ago #101017

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okey, can you re-test your water please.... if water turns out to have same
info..... perhaps your o is suffering from swim bladder problem. swim bladder
problem could either be can not float; or can not stay at the bottom. i observed
your o tries to keep upward but always had a tendency to lay on the side...

is he still eating??

Re:Oscar laying on the bottom [Video] 1 year, 11 months ago #101020

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not eating at all, i throw some food in when i saw him swimming next to the surface, but he just went down at the bottom,
Ill test the water in a min I just did a 40% water change

Re:Oscar laying on the bottom [Video] 1 year, 11 months ago #101021

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Re-tested water, a little difference in pH, other than that, its the same

Re:Oscar laying on the bottom [Video] 1 year, 11 months ago #101024

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sorry to hear about your ill O. When was the last time it ate? Do you have any idea of age of your O?

Re:Oscar laying on the bottom [Video] 1 year, 11 months ago #101033

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9 months old maybe, not exactly sure, last time he ate was 2 days ago. so basically he has been laying at the bottom for 2 days, swimming from time to time then laying on the bottom again

I do have an empty 55 gallon tank, should i put my O there?, i mean i dont even know how to treat him because idont know what the hell is wrong with him, the only thing i can do is keep his water clean and lets hope gets better, i really love this O and i dont want to lose him.
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Re:Oscar laying on the bottom [Video] 1 year, 11 months ago #101035

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My Red Oscar eats too much sometimes and sits on the bottom kind of like that. But yours seems to breathing very hard; and not eating. I don't think you should move the O to the med tank until you have a better idea whats going on. I think you should keep the water pristine along with good airation and watch closely for a couple days and see if your O gets better.

But I don't know much about parasite diseases, etc. so hopefully someone else chimes in soon on that kind of stuff.
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Re:Oscar laying on the bottom [Video] 1 year, 11 months ago #101045

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Hey I just realized your FJqattan from youtube. I had seen some of your videos on youtube previously. cool deal!

Re:Oscar laying on the bottom [Video] 1 year, 11 months ago #101048

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thanks

Re:Oscar laying on the bottom [Video] 1 year, 11 months ago #101051

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Quick update:
I Believe paul is right, i just saw him swimming and he cant swim straight, im 90% sure its swim bladder right now. I haven't slept since yesterday and its almost 12pm here trying to figure out whats wrong with him.

Please if anyone here got any experience with swim bladder let me know, i lost an oscar back then and i dont want to lose another one.

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Does your pet fish have trouble swimming? If your fish floats on the surface or has a difficult time rising from the bottom, he has a buoyancy problem.

Buoyancy trouble is a common and widespread problem. A recent study published by the Japan Aquaculture Society Journal described the condition in detail and named this syndrome "tenpuku" disease, which means "capsized."

Buoyancy problems are caused by a wide variety of disorders. Some of these include systemic disease (bacterial, viral, fungal, parasitic, cancer), starvation, general weakness, eroded fins and broken fins, swim bladder diseases, and excessive air in the gastrointestinal tract or abdominal cavity. Buoyancy disorders of goldfish, especially the round-bodied ornamental varieties like orandas, lionheads, bubble-eyes, Ryukins, and moore, is one of the most common and frustrating problems confronting the pet fish hobbyist and aquatic animal veterinarian.

Swim Bladder Disease

Many buoyancy problems are simply idiopathic, which means that there is no known cause, and are associated with the swim bladder – a small epithelium-lined sac in the anterior abdomen responsible for maintaining buoyancy. The sac inflates if the fish needs to be more buoyant and deflates if the fish needs to be less buoyant. Goldfish and some other fish are members of the cyprinid (minnows and carp) family and are physostomous, which means there is an open connection between the esophagus and the swim bladder. The bladder is called a pneumocystic duct, and it allows additional adjustment of buoyancy by letting air out through the digestive tract.

Sometimes the swim bladder is affected by food impactions. Viruses and bacteria can inflame the lining making it difficult for gases to diffuse across. And the genetically selected rotund body type of the goldfish predisposes them to food impactions, which in turn clog the pneumocystic duct. Then, too, feeding dry foods which tend to take on water like a sponge and expand in the fish helps to cause food impactions.

What To Watch For

Your fish will show signs of difficulty swimming or staying afloat. Some things you might notice are:

# Hovering around the top of the tank, sometimes upside down.
# Difficulty rising to the top of the tank
# Difficulty swimming to the bottom of the tank

The condition may be temporary or permanent, and most fish remain alert and continue to eat. Meanwhile, the other fish in the aquarium or pond are usually unaffected.

Veterinary Care

Your veterinarian can help you diagnose this problem by performing a physical examination of your pet and perhaps taking a radiograph (X-ray) of your fish. Usually there is a recent history of the goldfish appearing upside down at the surface of the water.

While a number of medical and surgical procedures have been tried to correct the problem, results are usually not successful.

Green Pea Treatment

Oddly enough, one treatment that has had good results is feeding your fish a pea. That's right, a single green pea (canned or cooked and lightly crushed) once daily often helps cure the problem. Exactly how the "green pea" treatment works is unknown, but it is possible that the pea helps move or displace lighter and/or air-filled food through the digestive tract. Your veterinarian should still examine your fish, including a physical examination and radiography; however, the harmless and inexpensive "pea treatment" seems to have its place in managing buoyancy problems of goldfish.

The "green pea" protocol should also include increasing the water temperature to 75 to 80 degrees Fahrenheit and continued feeding of the regular commercial fish food. However, discontinue feeding your fish floating pellets or flake food.

Preventative Care

There are several things you can do to prevent this problem. These include:

# Select fish that are swimming and behaving normally in the pet store aquarium.

# Quarantine any new fish for one month before introducing them to your established aquarium or pond. For more information on quarantine, please click on How to Quarantine Your Fish.

# If you are keeping round-bodied varieties of ornamental goldfish, then it is probably a good idea to feed them sinking pellets and supplement their diet with some green vegetables, including canned or frozen peas.


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