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Help! I rescued an Oscar! 2 years, 8 months ago #54408

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Hello everyone! I've rescued an Oscar from a school I attend once a week and although I presently have 6 tanks in my house, I'm a Gold Fish mom! Everything I know about Oscar's comes from what I've read over the last 3 days. I have also studied this site and I'm confident I have come to the right place.
The O I rescued is 6 years old and comes from an extremely dirty 30 gallon tank. This tank had moss-like algae (?) free floating throughout the tank as well as growing all over the two very large decorations and gravel. I spoke briefly with the owner about three weeks ago asking him if he new his tank was way too small for what he had in there. (It contained the O and a Gourami of some sort) The owner had "no idea". I brought my master kit in the following week to test his water because I noticed a white/grey patch starting on the tail fin. I can't remember exactly how it tested, what I do remember is there were definate Nitrites and the Nitrates were through the roof. The water temperature made the glass more then warm to the touch. His thermometer wasn't working - heck, my Beta's tank isn't even that warm! (he told me he uses only cold water for water changes)
Last Wednesday when I went to class the owner had removed the O and put him in another 30 gallon he had in storage. He had done this the day before and was doing another water change that day. I had to investigate. This poor fish could hardly keep upright. The owner hadn't even cleaned out the tank in storage he just filled it with about 10% of the original's tank's water and filled the rest with new...ugh.
Ok so I couldn't contain myself any longer - if I left the fish where it was, it was certain death so I had no choice, I took him.
I realize what I'm about to tell you isn't exactly the best thing to do but....well, I just did the best I could with what I had. I have a 36 gallon tank I'm setting up for a Lemon Tetra tank that is half way to being established and ready for fish. Also in my living room is a 75 gallon with four Fancy Goldfish. You guessed it, knowing the Oscar needed that 75 gallon tank more then my Fancies, I moved them into that 36g and put him in the 75g. What I did was not nice to my goldies but, well...carp are hardy right? Anyway, now that you have the details as to what this poor big fish has been through...here is his present situation.
He is alone in the 75gal tank with 3 soft plastice plants and gravel. I have 2 filters running, both Eheim Prof II, the 2026 and the 2028. There are two disk bubblers and my water is PH 7.2, Nitrites 0, Nitrates 0, Ammonia 0. Oxygen tests well too. (I do not know ALK etc) The tank contains Aquarium salt at the rate of 1 tbls per 5gals. O has not eaten since Tuesday (4 days). I bought him a heater for the tank and is sitting at 79/80. He doesn't acknowledge his regular freeze dried Tubifix worms (fm owner) or the frozen blood worms I bought him.
He has definate tail and fin rot. His eyes are covered in white, on one eye the white stuff is starting to "stick out", not the eye itself, just the white stuff. He has some kind of fungal infection over his body. He doesn't swim but when he attempts to he ends up falling and just laying wherever he lands. He can't stay upright on his own. (the base of his tail is actually broken - from the net I think)
So far I tried the Jungle tabs because I didn't have enough Maracyn or Maracyn 2 in my cabinet for the 75 gal. I bought the Melafix, Pimafix and Xtreme Garlic drops and have read so much I'm totally confused on what to do or how to treat this guy.

PS. I am supposed to give this fish back to it's owner when it's well but...I think my subconscious refuses to do this because I have named him "Blue"

Re:Help! I rescued an Oscar! 2 years, 8 months ago #54411

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welcome to the site

Sounds like your little oscar is in a little bit of a sorry state, probably due to being housed in poor water conditions. Obviously the first thing to make sure that you water conditions are really good. He should be okay in your 75 gallon tank, if you just give the Oscar to nothing else, you should be able to maintain a good water conditions, you have got excellent filtration. Little bit suspicious about your nitrate levels being at zero, it could well be that the Oscar has not eaten but I would certainly doublecheck this just to be on the safe side.

It sounds like he could have a bacterial/fungal infection, any chance of a photograph? If he has been kept in very poor water conditions then this would account for his condition. does the white stuff looks fluffy, light cotton wool? this would be fungal, if he has any slime then that could be bacterial. There are various different medications that can treat either, we just need to try and get an idea of what is affecting the Oscar for

Anyway, well done on the rescue, and keep us posted on his condition.
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Re:Help! I rescued an Oscar! 2 years, 8 months ago #54412

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i have a few question:
1) is your new 75 gal tank cycled before putting your oscar?
2) have you used salt?
3) is the o eating?

the set up and the filtering system is good enough and can cope
with your fish...just want info so that we can give correct advices.

btw, welcome to the forum
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Re:Help! I rescued an Oscar! 2 years, 8 months ago #54416

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Thank you OFL, Paul ...glad to be here!

The 75g he's in was set up last September for my two Goldies that were in a 30g at the time. In November I rescued two other Fancy Goldies and kept them seperate in 10g tanks until they were better. Around Christmas I put the 4 of them in the 75g when it was established. I had a problem with the Nitrates and the PH for along time. And it wasn't until I bought the second filter that it all came under control. I even bought a new master kit for testing on the chance my original kit might be old or outdated but the new kit tested the same.

The test results I posted are as of this Friday. Yesterday I did a 25% w/c and vacuum. There was very little debris to pick up since my Goldies have been out of this tank since Wednesday night. I added salt, Xtreme Garlic, Melafix and Pimafix. A few hours later I tried the bloodworms again, making sure they fell near his mouth in case he isn't eating because he can't see but he still doesn't even acknowledge them.

His coat is slimy. The discolored scales are white/grey but I don't see where it looks cottony at all. I used my magnifyer glass to look all over him too. (yes I'm a fish nut lol

My husband just took some pictures for you (I hope they are clear enough, our camera isn't the best for this sort of thing) and since pictures are better then words I'll just wait till you have a look.

I appreciate your fast responses as I'm very worried about my Blue...

Re:Help! I rescued an Oscar! 2 years, 8 months ago #54418

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Ummm I included pics in that reply but, I don't see them...
I do something wrong?

Re:Help! I rescued an Oscar! 2 years, 8 months ago #54419

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Please use a program like photobucket to include pictures on the forum, you cannot upload them onto our servers anymore
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Re:Help! I rescued an Oscar! 2 years, 8 months ago #54420

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I suspect that your Oscar either has a bacterial, or parasitic skin infection if it is very slimy. It may be a good idea to treat for bacteria and parasites, there is probably a medication that does both, I will look into it and see what I can find.
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Re:Help! I rescued an Oscar! 2 years, 8 months ago #54421

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ok...I created a photo album called simply BLUE cuz it was the fastest way to get the pics up...

I will try to post them here in the meantime...

Re:Help! I rescued an Oscar! 2 years, 8 months ago #54422

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Blue is slightly slimy, not excessively, if that helps

Re:Help! I rescued an Oscar! 2 years, 8 months ago #54424

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What you have got to remember is that diagnosing fish diseases and illnesses is not easy at the best of times. In an ideal world you would take his skin scrap and have it examined properly, this way you would know exactly what the problem is. Unfortunately this is not ready practical in the majority of cases so it can be hit and miss. However, I've got a pretty good fish health book here which normally helps out quite well.

Is your fish breathing heavily? This can sometimes indicate problems. Anyway, try and post some photos, can we guarantee that we will gain much more information from them, but is always a good idea.
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Re:Help! I rescued an Oscar! 2 years, 8 months ago #54429

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I managed to get some photos into photobucket but ...well..I'm still working on it..little confused...

In the mean time, did you happen to take a look at my photo album in my profile? The photos I'm trying to post are the same ones...

Re:Help! I rescued an Oscar! 2 years, 8 months ago #54430

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okay, that is not an Oscar, looks like a severum. To be quite honest, it looks too far gone to save, does it lie on its side all the time? My opinion would be that the best thing to do is actually put it out of its misery
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