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Rapid fin and scale deteriation 4 years, 4 months ago #8335

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I am new to this site but by no means new to fish care or oscars. Months ago almost lost all cichlids. Three survived, a convict, another cichlid and a plectomis. My eight year old oscar died tragicly almost over night. Still trying to find cause and correct. ph is 8.1, ammonia stays very low, nitrites are nearly untracable and nitrates stay around 40 ppm. 55 gal tank temp stays around 78-80. biological filter hangs off the back and overflows water back into tank topside. i use aquarium salt as directed, nutrilzers when adding water as directed, and slim coat as directed. thought i had seen and put my fish thru every disease and problem that could be had and learned alot over the years doing so. but this is beyond anything i've seen and noone has been able to help. i have tried everything and still introducing an oscar to this tank will kill them within the hour, so i tore the tank down, replaced the gravel, cleaned the ornamentals only leaving the biological filter intact. set the tank back up added the chlorine remover etc... next day added an oscar and hour later had to remove him from the tank and put him in another tank. i maintain my community tank the same way i do my cichlid tank, except for ph which runs higher from my cichlids. Oscar is recovering fine in this tank. they will act ok when i first put them in but with in a few minutes they will go to the bottom and litterly start to deteriate before your eyes. I add rosy barbs for surviving fish to eat. Sometimes takes days for these fish to get ate up but the barbs as well as these survivers are unharmed by whatever is killing oscars. any help, suggestions would be appreciated.

Re:Rapid fin and scale deteriation 4 years, 4 months ago #8342

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you should have received an e-mail from me.

For the benefit of other people on here I basically explained that It's never easy to diagnose just over the Internet.

However, I could put two factors into the equation that might be something to consider.

The ph is 8.1, this is about as high as you want to go with Oscars.it would be a good idea to find out what the ph of the water is where you bought the fish from. If is very low, let's say 6.5 to seven, that's quite a big difference when you are introducing the fish straight away. Fish can become ill from large fluctuations in ph.

We should also consider the nitrate. Whereas nitrate is nowhere near as toxic as ammonia or nitrite, care should be taken when introducing new fish to your tank.fish can suffer from nitrate shock. This can happen when fish that have been kept in water with a low nitrates are then put in tanks with high nitrate levels. This can happen because a lot of shops that maintain their tanks wellhave very low nitrate levels. Taking official news conditions and then putting them in a tank with fairly high levels could result in nitrate shock. Now I'm not saying this is the problem here, it's just something to think about. Maybe ask the shop to test the water next time you buy a fish from them
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Re:Rapid fin and scale deteriation 4 years, 4 months ago #8507

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Just a maybe but are you adding the correct amount of salt for the amount of water taken out during a water change. If you added right amount for the whole tank everytime you change some water your salt level will slowly increase until it causes the fish problems
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