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Shane I have the exact same tank and I consider it fully stocked with one Oscar and one common Pleco. I also happen to have four SDs in mine. I used to have a Convict in there and she did great until the O got big and then one day she was gone. I wouldn't put another big cichlid in mine unless I got rid of the Pleco, and that's not gonna happen because he does a great job at brown algae control.


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Ok great so if I had 1 oscar how many silver dollars would you reccomend in the tank and should I add a plec
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Shane1988 wrote: Ok great so if I had 1 oscar how many silver dollars would you reccomend in the tank and should I add a plec


Stocking is totally up to you. You don't have to do what I did. ;)

A five foot 150 gallon tank gives you lots of options. Hopefully some others will chime in with more ideas.

If you definitely want at least one Oscar, that's going to be almost half your bioload right there.

As to your specific question, silver dollars are schooling fish and feel more comfortable in groups of six or more. I used to have a lot more, but my O killed the others while they were still small. He ignores the big ones, and if I could find some big ones for sale I would add at least two more. Whether or not you want a Pleco is up to you. They aren't the most exciting fish to watch, as they are mostly nocturnal and hide a lot during the day. I have mine because I have found him to be invaluable in keeping my brown algae problem contained. Unfortunately, a big Pleco causes as much bioload as an adult Oscar.

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daddadoo7 replied the topic: Re:Re:Hello

Rogue_Violetta wrote: Dadda just gave you a bit of info overload there, I think, lol.

But he's right! What type of fish are you interested in?

what he asked for options lol


Shane getting cichlids to work really does depend on the the personality of each individual fish. Your oscar/jd combo could work great or fail miserably...wont know unless you try it. Chocolate cichlids work with oscars too. I would stay away from mixing any real aggressive central american cichlids with oscars though.

In this situation google is your friend ...pick some fish and get advise from our forum. Lots of members like sd's I hate them....they are like lawn mowers endless appetites. As for plecos there are tons fancy plecos that dont get too large and are very good looking. From the little time I spend on planet catfish forum it looks like you guys (u.k) have access to lots of great pleco species. I think the best route would be to choose your main fish like the tanks centerpiece (which sounds like it will be an oscar) and build from there
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Suprd71 replied the topic: Re:Re:Hello

I have 2 male JD. One is a great community fella, the other is a pure terrorist. I think a 5ft tank will be limiting for O/JD. Could work, but I think its odds against.


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Shane1988 replied the topic: Re:Re:Hello

Yes that is what I'm planning an oscar as the centrepiece fish will go with some type of plec and then some dithers would this be ok and what dithers can be used other than silver dollars thanks
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Rogue_Violetta replied the topic: Re:Re:Hello

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Rogue_Violetta wrote: Dadda just gave you a bit of info overload there, I think, lol.

But he's right! What type of fish are you interested in?

what he asked for options lol


Shane getting cichlids to work really does depend on the the personality of each individual fish. Your oscar/jd combo could work great or fail miserably...wont know unless you try it. Chocolate cichlids work with oscars too. I would stay away from mixing any real aggressive central american cichlids with oscars though.

In this situation google is your friend ...pick some fish and get advise from our forum. Lots of members like sd's I hate them....they are like lawn mowers endless appetites. As for plecos there are tons fancy plecos that dont get too large and are very good looking. From the little time I spend on planet catfish forum it looks like you guys (u.k) have access to lots of great pleco species. I think the best route would be to choose your main fish like the tanks centerpiece (which sounds like it will be an oscar) and build from there


I had to have a giggle at the SD bit there... that's actually quite a good description of them, from what I know. Lamm told me stories of their little society breaking down over lettuce.

For dithers, if you want them for movement, you'd probably want something that would enhance the O. So, if you got a Lutino/Albino, you wouldn't want SD's.

I think certain Tetra's work, but some are just seen as a food source, no matter the size. And they seem to notice the difference.

And yes, Lamm has had a lot of success with a Severum/Oscar combo. They've paired up, so they're also compatible enough to do that, but aren't able to reproduce.

I'm not sure how they'd work, but I have wondered how some larger sized Yoyo/Pakistani loaches would go with Oscars. My current profile pic is of one of mine, if you don't know what they look like. They generally stick to themselves a bit, and while nocturnal, can be persuaded otherwise- mine love sitting on a rock in a tiny bit of sunlight.

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daddadoo7 replied the topic: Re:Hello

Dithers are tough especially since i havent found any that i like long term...tried sd's, rainbows, denisen barbs, and tiger barbs....so far my favirote are the tiger barbs. Though none would work with an oscar long term
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Shane1988 replied the topic: Re:Hello

Would it be possible to do an oscar some clown loaches and silver dollars or is that not a good idea thanks again just trying to get some ideas
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Lammergeier replied the topic: Re:Hello

The main problem with clown loaches (and loaches in general) is how slowly they grow. Your O would very quickly outgrow them, and because they're generally long and thin... I think most oscars would see them as biscuits. I'd also be iffy putting them in with an oscar because of them having spines they can use in self defense. If an O thought they were food it could end badly.

If I were you I'd go oscar, severum and SDs but I'm totally bias. I have an oscar and sev and they get along great! Sevs seem to be a lot more 'ballsy' than people give them credit for. Their bioload is also very manageable compared to an oscar. Personality-wise, mine is a slightly less hungry version of my oscar. You can see her in my sig.

As for SDs... Daddadoo hates them :P but I love mine. I really do think they do best when kept in a large group. I've got 9, and in a big group they're a whole lot of fun to watch. Quite interactive for community fish too; I can 'summon' mine to the top of the tank and I've handfed the larger ones a couple of times (more they stole the pellet I was trying to give to my oscar, but still). I've also avoided most of the issues mentioned about them being lawnmowers because I handfeed my oscar and severum before the free-for-all chaos that is silver dollars at food time.

Only thing to note is that if you go for SDs you need to go for ones too big to fit in an oscar's mouth. Their growth rate seems to vary a whole lot and a lot of places mention that they grow quite slowly. I'd aim to get ones at least 2" long with that in mind... But, based on personal experience, mine grew like weeds. The ones I got were the same size as my oscar when I got him in May (~2.5"), but as of now my O is just shy of 9" and my largest SD is over 6".
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