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Joliet Jake replied the topic: Re:Hello everyone

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Even an established aquarium can develop cloudy water. This can be if somebody over feeds, disturbs gravel releasing lots of nutrients in the water, or just plain overstocking of the tank. When this happens, this free swimming bacteria has lots of food and this is when they multiply.


This had to be the cause of my cloudy condition because I had allot of gravel and really disturbed most of it thoroughly and then removed about half of it but the damage was done when I cleaned and stirred it I'll bet. You are correct, no harmful readings on anything. In Joe's case he may have washed out the good bacteria of his biological filter as he admits washing it in tap water. It is disconcerning when you know you are doing things right but then something happens to go wrong in spite of it all. It really does help to have a place like this to air things out and get other opinions as well as advice too..

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When you are a novice, it can be frightening when things go wrong and you don't know what to do. Like you said, it's nice to have somewhere to go where people have a little more experience and can help out. I learn something new about Oscars every week. Nobody can know everything.

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Than you for the welcome, Yeah thats Copper my male beagle, i also have a female named Coco:-)

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jabdo07 replied the topic: Re:Hello everyone

H ken, Thank you for the information. you are right i def' messed up my biological balance in the tank. Naturally i just spent the last few days checking my levels to make sure that the fish would be ok. i did about a half water change yesterday and amazingly i would say my water is already 90% better today. I felt worried when i had to feed the oscars earlier b/c i was afraid the cloudiness would appear again. Hence, I made sure they ate all of the food:-) So i think things are getting under way and i can't wait to get this tank i am looking at in the future. It is a 150 gallon, Although i'm not sure whst kind of a filteration system i will need for that, i must research....Take care and thank you again.



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That is quite a sizeable tank you've got there. In my opinion, you should be going for an external canister filter, maybe even see if you can afford it. Hagan Manufacturer filter called a Fluval 404. One of them might not just be big enough to your tank, two would be excellent. However, if you don't want to do that or haven't got the funds available, have a look at Eheim, they manufacture absolutely loads of canister filters. I could guarantee that there be one there that would suit you down to the ground. There are obviously other makes of canister on the market, personally I haven't had any experience using these. I am a great lover of eheim so that's why I always recommend them. I've used them for quite a long time and I would certainly carry on using them to.

Try and avoid filters are only have sponges inside. I have tried these filters and they get clogged up too easily. Go for a filter that has ceramic type material. If you look on the Oscar tank setup page, you will see just what I'm talking about

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Thank you for the advice, its funny you mentioned the fluval I just picked one up yesterday, thats why i ran into trouble with cloudy water b/c i rinsed the media with tap water:-( Any way i went ahead with the 405 fluval, it was pricy but I think It will be worth it. Seems like an amazing filter. I learned my lesson buying a 55 gal when i should have went with the 100+ so I bought the biggest fluval they had 100 gallon....Do you think that this will be to much for my current 55 gallon,untill I get my 100? secondly, can i still keep my bio wheel filter connected and running with the Fluval? Thanks again.

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You can never have "too much filtration" will Oscars. Because they are so messy (both with feeding and toilet habits) you need good filtration to keep up with this. So if you've got filtration on a 55 gallon that literally filters the whole water twice our, that is brilliant. If you had inadequate filtration that took a long time to filter the water, the waste would build up in the water and that would have a detrimental effect on the fishes health.

You have to remember that fish don't only produce ammonia from waste and urine, they produce it from their gills so you have always got ammonia being produced . Good filtration will make sure that your water is in very good condition at all times. Well, that's how we hope things go anyway.

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yes i am very impressed with the filtration i have going in the 55 gallon, double wheel whisper and an additional bio wheel that I had from my old set up. Now that I just added the Fluval, as soon as the oscars eat the particles are gone from the water. So I believe the filtration is adequate. But i am unsure on when to replace my media in the Fluval, and when to change my foam in the whisper.

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I am a little confused, I think you have got the Fluval 405, or is that someone else on here? Anyway, you talk about replacing the media in the Fluval. If you have got up and running and it is totally cycled then all you have to do is either replace, or wash the mechanical filtration. Now having never used the Fluval, I am a little unsure as what sort of mechanical filtration it comes with. If the mechanical filtration is very thin pieces of floss tight media then this normally has to be changed once a week. If they come in reasonably thick pieces of sponge, then all you really need to do is rinse them out and existing tank water.

The same goes with your whisper filter. Once again, I've never used one of these. You should have both biological and mechanical filtration. I think I'm right in saying that both these are sponge in these type filters. Determine which is the mechanical filtration and keep that clean. If you have got a wheel that turns around, this is the mechanical filtration. The biological filtration will be in the form of a sponge inside the filter. The biological filtration should be treated very carefully. No need to clean this too often. When you do, just swill it around in existing tank water. You don't want to clean it so is absolutely spotless.

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When I had a 120 a few years ago, I had a large Eheim 2028 cannister Filter on it pulling water from two built in corner overflow systems. That cannister I would clean out about every 4-6 weeks. It's important to only rinse out the bio balls or ceramic biological media in a bucket of aquarium water so as not to kill off the good bacteria. (Remember, you're not really trying to clean them as much as you are trying to seperate away the solids tht collect etc.) Then replace the foam in the canister with a new piece, or if its not too bad just wash it out too. Then on the Bio Wheel or whisper, I would replace the mechanical pad every other week or so, depending upon how bad (or good) it looked.

My new bio-wheel canopy has a total of four bio wheels and thus four filter pads. I plan to replace a single pad each week, rotating through so each week one pad is new, one is 2 weeks old, one is 3 weeks old etc. If it gets too dirty, I may replace two pads each time then, but I"ll try the first method first. I liked that huge eheim and had I needed another cannister filter today, thats the brand I would probably buy. I especially liked the self priming button on top that made it easy to reprime the cannister with water once you clean it and need to get it restarted. Marineland claims this new canopy system to be rated for 600GPH but if I find it's not keeping my tank as clean as I expect, I may add a small cannister filter too if necesary. The nice thing about cannisters is like they run for a solid month or more between maintenance and the smaller filter pad type filters (bio wheel pads) don't and require looking after more often. Yet the canisters are more labor intensive to clean once they do require cleaning out.

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