Jake got his Water Wings!

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Well up til yesterday I had 3-4 really fast Zebra Danios remaining in the tank with my Oscars and these 4 couldn't be caught for the past 10 days or so. This morning I heard and noticed alot of splashing and movement in the tank and I didn't really look in there until just now but those 4 danios are no where to be found. I think Jake decided to use the after burners and go after them..

Today he's chasing Elvira around the tank a bit too and that's a first. Nothing too serious but it's the first I've ever noticed them acting like this....(Up until yesterday, you almost couldn't keep these two apart.) Like I said, this change in behavior came almost overnight and out of no where. I think this may be just a normal part of the behavior exhibited as part of the mating / breeding process.. What do you think Penn?

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Need to give away one healthy 1 year old Oscar if you know of anyone interested. See the adoption thread for photos. Thanks!
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Remind me how big the Oscars are? A breeding pair of Oscars will chase each other around and sometimes get very rough however You have to remember that it is quite possible for two females to pair up. Because you only have two Oscars, the chances are they will hang around with each other. I have got six Oscars (the seventh one died unfortunately) so it's quite difficult to tell if there is a pair amongst them. I am definitely starting to see telltale signs of fish hanging around with each other and there was some definite lip locking going on today. However, lip locking can also be aggression so that certainly isn't an indication to get the cigars out.

Oscars will go through this type of behaviour and you may never have a pair. Unfortunately it is absolutely impossible to say whether you've got a breeding pair of Oscars until you see them laying and fertilising eggs.

I'm afraid it's going to be a waiting game. They probably won't be sexually mature until they are around one-year-old, maybe longer. They will be around seven or 8 inches long at this stage if everything goes well

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Jake is slighty larger approaching 5" in length and Elvira is a tad smaller at approximately 4-1/2". I believe these two fish to be from the exact same batch of fry and they were the only two Oscars in the tank at the shop when I got them 6-8 weeks ago.

Actually I am convinced they are a mating pair as I watched them go through thr "curling" etc several different times yet I fully understand that until eggs are layed and the other fish fertilizes that you don't know with absolute certainty. They have favored a bare spot in the aquarium a few different times now, usually right after a water change which it appears they like. I would actually prefer these weren't a mated pair as my intention is not to deal with fry, but I will as necessary.

I was more concerned about Jakes sudden seeming change of disposition in quick order it seems, first actually catching and eating those remaining danios and now chasing Elvira around the tank often enough that she has been hiding a bit in a cave during parts of the day. She is not shy to eat near him though. Prior to this I swear these two were best buds often verty very close..

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Need to give away one healthy 1 year old Oscar if you know of anyone interested. See the adoption thread for photos. Thanks!
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Joliet Jake replied the topic: Re:Jake got his Water Wings!

How did you lose the 7th Baby? Sorry to hear that..

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OFL replied the topic: Re:Jake got his Water Wings!

Probably some kind of internal bacteria/parasite problem. I was toying with the idea of getting an autopsy done. I would imagine that be very expensive though.

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delboybully replied the topic: Re:Jake got his Water Wings!

Fish are livestock and just because one died out of seven i dont think a autopsy is neccessary. It is probably just one of those things. If others start dying then there is probably a common cause but if they are fine its probably a dodgy fish. I reckon you are just wasting your money if you get an autopsy.

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OFL replied the topic: Re:Jake got his Water Wings!

I did think about it and even rang the vet who were not there at the time. I think you are correct, it probably would have cost an awful lot of money. It would be nice to know exactly how the Oscar died. It is extremely common for Oscars to stop eating, I come across it time and time again. I've actually been wondering whether Oscars are as hardly as people make out. People do tend to have problems. I plan on keeping four, a couple in one tank and two in another. Hopefully they will both be a pair. Not that I plan on breeding, I may sell a pair in the future if they are successful. Probably worth quite a lot of money to someone who wants to breed for a living.

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delboybully replied the topic: Re:Jake got his Water Wings!

I agree with you oscars are not as hardy as they are made out to be. They have their problems like all fish. However i dont think its worth the money for an autopsy. It would be nice to know what they die of but how much to know?. How many humans have an autopsy just to reveal natural causes due to something wrong in the body



Now i am no expert, i have only a basic knowledge from what i have been told but as far as a breeding pair of oscars are concerned if you want to get top prices obviously you need a good quality looking pair. Also you need a 'proven' pair. A proven pair is a pair of the same sort that produces offspring of the same type. Example 2 tiger oscars that produce ALL tigers oscars. Or reds producing reds or lutinos producing lutions etc. It is obvious that to have a proven pair you have to breed from them and grow their youngsters up. About 3 years ago i saw a 'proven' pair of discus for sale for £200. I thought at the time 'HOW MUCH' but seeing how much i have seen adults for since that looks cheap!!!!

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