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Just got my Oscars three weeks ago. A Albino and a Tiger that are 3 inches long. I put them in with two red belly pacus that are 4 inches long. I had a pleco that was 8 inches long. Last week the pleco jumped out of the tank, I guess between the two filters. Thats the only place I can figure, theres a open spot to the surface. Now Ive noticed a smell from the warter and brown stuff on the rocks, possible unetean food? The Pleco would eat any left over food from the others that they didnt eat. Any sugestions?
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Welcome to the website/forum. First of all, how big is your tank and did you cycle it before putting the fish in? Secondly, have you any idea how big pacu get? They grow huge, they can reach 3 feet in length and are totally unsuitable for 99.9% of home aquariums. Didn't the place you bought them from tell you how big they get? You need about 300+ gallons just for one. Now unless you have a tank that is 1000 gallons +, you need to consider what you are going to do with those fish. Okay, sorry for the lecture but I want to stop you getting into a situation that could cause a lot of problems for the fish.

One thing that can cause water to smell is if you start going through a mini cycle. Is your water cloudy at all? What does it smell like, is a really putrid? Also, what are your parameters (ammonia/nitrite/nitrate) it is very important that you test your water to see what the readings.

Once we know this, we can advise you a little more on what you can do and where you go from here

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Hi Oscar Man, I wondered if the pacu killed and ate the pleco? and the smell is some of the remains:unsure:

My oscars used to live with a pacu that is how I ended up with them, I rescued them from a mate.

Pacus do get huge and will soon eat the oscars.

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I think I'll might put a couple of photos in the tankmates Gallery. Example, fish not suitable as tankmates unless you have the mother of all tanks. If anyone has got a really good photo of a pacu then why not post it on this section?

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OSCAR MAN replied the topic: Re:WARTER SMELLS

When I woke up the other morning I found my Pleco on the floor dead,so thats not where the smell is coming from. Its not bad to me, but my wife says she can smell the tank when she walks in the room. As far as the nitrite and nitrate levels go, the nitrite is good at 0%ppm but the nitrate is high at 80ppm. Do you know what the approx levels of GH,KH,pH,NO2,NO3 should be for my type of fish? Also I had no idea that Pocus got that big. I was told that they dont get more than 12 inches in aquariums. I did some research online instead of the petstore heresay crap and found that they can reach 30 inches! When they reach the size that there no longer keepable I guess well have to put them in my dads koi pond.
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OFL replied the topic: Re:WARTER SMELLS

A lot of these bloody pets shops who selfish really annoy me. They are totally irresponsible selling large fish like pacu without actually checking to see whether the person buying has the correct environment for the fish to live in. Just because it's a fish, doesn't mean you can treated any differently from a dog or a cat for instance. I would like to add that none of this is a reflection on you Oscar man. You want to know, they should have explained in detail about pacu when you bought it. A lot of these shops don't, they know that if they do, they will put people off buying them, thus putting them out of pocket.

As for your water readings. Ammonia and nitrite should never rise above zero. If you ever have traced readings of these two toxins, your fish are at harm. The problem is, keeping large fish in small tanks can often put a lot of pressure on the filtration system and this is when you can sometimes get toxins build up in the water. Nitrate is not a toxin and will not kill your fish. However, if you let them get too high, they will stress the fish out. For this reason, you must keep it as low as possible, ideally around 20-25 ppm. If it does reach 40-50 don't start panicking, the fish will be perfectly okay, just try and do a water change as soon as possible.

As for the pH level, Oscars like it for around 6.0 to 7.5 but don't be tempted to try and mess around with it if it is slightly higher. Oscars will be perfectly okay with it slightly higher than 7.5.

I think you are a wise to get rid of the pacu, you can't possibly keep them in your tank and maintain a safe environment in the long term. Don't forget that pacu are tropical fish, koi carp cold water fish and don't require any heating, pacu will. It probably wouldn't be wise to mix them.

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OSCAR MAN replied the topic: Re:WARTER SMELLS

Thanks for the fast and knowlegeable responce. Im about to do a partial warter change and retest. Ive been trying to keep the pH at 7.0 with the 7.0 liquid Neutral Regulator, but every time I test it it shows a 6.0. Im using the 5 in one test stips from API. Do you think I should get a diffrent type? Also just to let you know that my fish are in a 55gal tank until next month and thell be in a 150gal from our local (uniformative) pet store.
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I should leave your pH as it is. I'm not in favour of trying to alter it, things can go drastically wrong sometimes. I have never used the sort of test kits you are talking about. The ones I use are made by aquarium pharmaceuticals. They go a long way and are relatively cheap considering how much you get for your money. The thing I like about this product is you only have two bottles. I have used Tetra products before and if my memory serves me correct, one or two of the tests you actually have to use three bottles and wait for 20 minutes. With aquarium pharmaceuticals, it only takes five minutes for the test to work and like I said, only two bottles are necessary. Don't get me wrong, Tetra a very good, I just prefer just having the two bottles. Great news that you are getting a much bigger tank, you may know yourself then, you'll be amazed at how the water stays good for much longer. Just don't be tempted to overstock the tank. You still only have room for two Oscars and a few tankmates.

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OSCAR MAN replied the topic: Re:WARTER SMELLS

I appriciate all your input! Thanks for your advice on the type of test kit that you use also. I will see if I can find it this weekend wile were out. I also was browsing the site to see types of tank mates that people were using and as soon as I get the 150gal tank set up and cycled Im gonna get a few mates for my Oscars. Thanks for help so we can get started the right way! P.S.,I will try to post pics soon when I figure out how. LOL!
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OFL replied the topic: Re:WARTER SMELLS

Look forward to your pictures. Check this link out, it will tell you how to post pictures on the forum.

http://www.oscarfishlover.com/index.php?option=com_joomlaboard&Itemid=55&func=view&id=51&catid=16

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