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LeafsFan replied the topic: Apollo

Not that I know a whole lot but just to add in what I notice to see if it helps you any.
Is it possible that it could be partially a vision problem and a bit of like a coordination problem because it's like he gets right up on the pellet and when he lunges at it he's not in sync like most fish. It's like he don't get his mouth open properly on time to actually take the pellet it.
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robham7770 replied the topic: Apollo

I have even tied silversides to fishing line and left them dangling in the tank for him. The video is pretty extreme, usually I turn off the filters so the pellets don't get away. I don't know if lutino/albino fish are more prone to vision issues, but his has slowly but surely gotten pretty bad. I will probably get rid of the feeders, and if he starts to pout again, I will try something else from his region of the world.
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UNC-CH replied the topic: Apollo

Why get rid of the feeders? Because they produce a lot of waste? That's why I took mine out ... he had grown to 4" including the tail. But if you think they help him then maybe leave some ... or maybe just one. It sounds like they really made a big difference in his behavior, especially after all that time not eating. It may be generally considered bad practice to keep coldwater fish with tropical fish but if it helps him I think it's for the best.
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UNC-CH wrote: Why get rid of the feeders? Because they produce a lot of waste? That's why I took mine out ... he had grown to 4" including the tail. But if you think they help him then maybe leave some ... or maybe just one. It sounds like they really made a big difference in his behavior, especially after all that time not eating. It may be generally considered bad practice to keep coldwater fish with tropical fish but if it helps him I think it's for the best.

Well I am not a gold fish person, and I think that these could be considered fully quarantined, so I thought maybe the Dovii might like a treat. :evil: Of course I will film it if I do it. I am no biologist, but I think that the activity is stimulating to the fish, I have had some really reclusive fish that always made an appearance when others in the tank started eating. I think some can actually detect electric impulses through their lateral line.
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Darth Nandopsis replied the topic: Apollo

I would get rid of the feeders just based on the fact of how they are raised, & the potential for disease/parasites.

The way I see it....lutino's are basically albino....red eyes = no pigment = doesn't like bright light. Keep him w/ no lights on & see what happens.

What's the temp? PH? Just curious.

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DMD123 replied the topic: Apollo

I agree with Jack about the light. I would try and lower the light level. Another thing to try is a feeding ring that would keep the food in one spot. He would then get used to eating in that one spot all the time.
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robham7770 replied the topic: Apollo

Darth Nandopsis wrote: I would get rid of the feeders just based on the fact of how they are raised, & the potential for disease/parasites.

The way I see it....lutino's are basically albino....red eyes = no pigment = doesn't like bright light. Keep him w/ no lights on & see what happens.

What's the temp? PH? Just curious.


Great questions Jack. I had to dig for my ph test kit. I think I might need to get a new one. The bottles are in date, but I am getting 6.6 tap, and <6 tank. The city claims 7.7 to 8.1, so I am not really sure. Nitrates are at about 20 ppm but wc day is today. Temp is low at 77, which means I have another pos busted heater(set at 82). I am not trying to be ambiguous, but I tested my ph a long time ago and remembered it being low, and pretty much ideal for sa, and that was that. I don't remember it being that low. Yes I shook the hell out of the bottles. I have had a few mentions about the lighting, and I will try something else, but honestly his light is rarely left on.
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DMD123 wrote: I agree with Jack about the light. I would try and lower the light level. Another thing to try is a feeding ring that would keep the food in one spot. He would then get used to eating in that one spot all the time.


I am not familiar with a feeding ring, but I think I get the picture. That is a really good idea.
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robham7770 wrote:

DMD123 wrote: I agree with Jack about the light. I would try and lower the light level. Another thing to try is a feeding ring that would keep the food in one spot. He would then get used to eating in that one spot all the time.


I am not familiar with a feeding ring, but I think I get the picture. That is a really good idea.


Here is a picture of it


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robham7770 replied the topic: Apollo

Changed out the bulb, and got similar results. I have not tried the feeding ring, but he did try to remove my finger at the end of this video. I am just glad he is making the effort, I had written him off a couple of months ago. He laid on his side all day, and at night did his best impression of a ping pong ball. He woke my wife and I up a number of times, and I had to make sure he was still alive.

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