Why You Shouldn't Use Salt For Freshwater Fish

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PAUL replied the topic: Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt

salt or no salt would be fine...this is just a matter of exchange of ideas.
my understanding with salt started when i work as machine room tender at the
hotel operation. i had attended a lot of seminar for chiller or cooling tower
water cycle wherein salt is being used to soften hard water. then when i train for
fish cage culture, salt is always mentioned in case some diseases arises... thus,
it instill in my mind.... salt in moderation is good...excessive salt is always
toxic except on preservation of some fresh meat and the like.

having said that, i always get pointer in new finding with such experiment.
thus people invested in their time and resources to study it, thus, they must
command an authority on it....however, conventional knowledge had been there
since the discovery of salt....nothing to loose in believing with it too
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Sinstinna replied the topic: Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt

I've used salt for 5 years without any of those symptoms. I guess it would depend on how much you used. When I don't have salt they do just as well as with it so it don't seem like one of the most important things to me. When my Terror was sick salt was the first thing he ate and after 3 or 4 times of that he started eating. This will always be an ongoing debate. As long as you love them and do your best and get your advice on OFL they'll be fine :P

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delboybully replied the topic: Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt

The article didnt really tell us anything new, it says salt in high doses is bad for freshwater fish, well we all knew that anyway. The real question is dosing your tank will low levels of salt a good idea. We all have our ideas on this

I dont add salt to my tanks on a regular basis but i would if i had a fish with a big sore i would then add some salt

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SauRoN replied the topic: Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt

Yeah I think as OFL pointed out is that many people add salt as a tonic, thus with every water change, meaning it's eternally present in the water which is either pointless, or doing some harm.

For lacerations I still believe it's a good idea, as it applies to the healing of wounds for fish as well as any other animals as well as humans.


And Epsom salt is a bit of a different story, and normally used to encourage bowel movements.

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Verse34K replied the topic: Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt For Freshwater Fish

all i am getting out of the article is that longtime use of salt as a tonic can be harmful

very few tropical hobbyists use salt as a tonic, however...

salt is extremely helpful when curing stuff like ich, etc- under short term use

most of the negative things discussed in this article only affect fish that have been kept in water with salt for long periods of time.

hemorrhagic septicemia only affects coldwater fish (and only about 50 species at that)

a well know treatment for curing saprolegnia is a salt bath... :dry:

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PAUL replied the topic: Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt For Freshwater Fish

the bottom line is...salt is not needed when you do not have problem...fact.
you do not fix thing when it is not broken.... fact
so do not use salt in fresh water fish when it is not needed...simple as that..
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jarngar replied the topic: Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt

Nothing, and I mean, NOTHING can live in salt!!! Um, the "Dead Sea"??!! Nuff said?!!! Although, to rinse your mouth with salt is helpful, and beneficial, and too much is sickening. To a fish, the same thing happens, if not for a brief moment and in much smaller quantities, salt helps our fish!! Again, NOTHING, can live in iodine, but put it on a small scratch from a cat that shuffles and scoopes in it's own poop, and the wound will not only stop itching, but also heal quicker! I've treated some of the fish I've had in the past with just such a treatment. They lived, did just fine, and even grew just as normal as can be! My best testimony was my "Blue Channel Cat" that grew to be over two feet long and became one of my "best friends"!! He had gotten a scare on his top-side that wouldn't heal. I removed him from the tank, kept him moist, but gave him iodine treatments. He lived to be over ten yrs. old!! I think the only thing that killed him was my 'X' wife!! (ha,ha) She was a nag!) I will end with saying that GOD Himself has given US the priveledge to "manage" these fish/animals for now. It is up to us to do our best!!! God bless you all!!!!!!!!!!! James

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johnnyphoenix replied the topic: Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt

Win wrote:

OFL wrote:

I don't think people use salts because they think freshwater fish need it, I think people believe it is some kind of tonic to keep them healthy, I've never used it, I never will.


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It's a tonic because we hear it is...especially for us beginners. You read some of the info on things people sell and if you don't really know...even if you have the best intentions...they make you feel as if you don't buy it your fish might die more easily.

This is disturbing...although not totally unexpected, news. No more salt for my tank. What I see most is 'improves gill function...' and the like.

It's really difficult to truly learn what is right/wrong when you hear so much info to the contrary every time you go to the pet store...You can get alot of 'Oscar' info at different places and get 8 different opinions on everything.AND not just some pet store jackass, either. Sifting through the BS is not easy.

Anyways, I will take advice from here and throw the salt out...for good...unless I am noticing a disease problem.

...what I'm sayin' is it's really, really difficult to raise these fish the right way. Even with all the info I get here I always seem to learn by making mistakes first...well, at least they're still alive. It's still frustrating to keep doing it wrong first...
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Win replied the topic: Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt

after a bit of trepidation i placed a long distance phone call to the texas parks & wildlife fish hatchery in Athens, Texas, where they breed and raise virtually every type of fish found naturally occouring in this great state, and after waiting on hold for some 20 minutes and getting shuffled around the switch board, i finally got ahold of somebody that actually works in the hatchery and isnt a desk jockey, i say "hey, do you use salt in any form to treat your water??" the answer i got "Heck no, salt kills freshwater fish if in a concentration much more than a trace amount".


so that settles it for me. if a facility that breeds millions of texas game fish every year, doesnt use salt in their water, thats good enough reason for me to not use salt in my water as well.
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Win replied the topic: Re:Why You Shouldn't Use Salt

lol upon further research, even 90km out to sea at the mouth of the amazon river, salinity is only at 0.05% (still technically freshwater as brackish water would be over 0.05% up to 0.3%), and that is mostly from interaction with pure seawater as it passes into the ocean. infact potable (drinkable) water can be found out to sea being out of sight of the coastline, and the salinity of the ocean is altered up to 310 miles out to sea.

so having said that... i really dont think these fish require salt at all.
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