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morfeas replied the topic: my dog oreo (pitbull)

people love monsters and so does the media trying to sell.

these kind of statistics have been circulated in the net but there are also many sugesting otherwise. they are deliberately missleading and tell part of the story. of the in 4101 attacks in which breed was recorded, pit bulls were implicated. sure and breed is recorded mostly when it's a pitbull otherwise how we make headlines? if you call the news and say my lab ate my kid nothing will happen. if you say it was a pitbull you get ten cameras at your doorstep.

and how many were the pitbulls in total when doing that statistic? cause if you have 100 pitbulls in an area and 10 germans and say 50% of the attacks were pitbulls thats not a truthfull statistic is it?

i do agree with the insurance thing cause the truth is that too many idiots have them and that is the problem. not the dogs.

and as you say they were bred for fighting each other, but from that to biting humans is a huge logical jump used by media, haters and the like. cause while they were fighting, humans were close by and when locked they used sticks to split them putting their hands a couple of inches from their teeth. many time assisted by strangers to the dog. can you do that with two rottweilers figting? why dont you try it with huskies. the moment you touch them they will turn and bite you.

people mix up things. some deliberately, others are just irrelevant. breeding dogs for fighting each other doest mean the dogs are dominant to human. in fact, properly bred pitbulls are submisive to humans. as opposed to other breeds like working german sheperds or malinois or even dobermans (some lines).

the problem is most the pitbulls that are bred for looks that cause the problems rather than the ones bred for fighting. mixing the working breeding with agression to humans is the tactics peta and others used to get the dogs banned. but when the pitbulls were to get banned everyone else thought it was not their problem. now that the want to ban staffs, rotts etc they all woke up sudenly lol
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yesimhere2 replied the topic: my dog oreo (pitbull)

not touching this one.
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kimmee replied the topic: my dog oreo (pitbull)

I am not a pittbull lover or hater, but I am however a rottweiler LOVER! I am currently on my 3rd rottie the other 2 died of old age. All 3 of mine were the most intelligent lovable dogs! I have raised them with my children and never had a concern. But if you watch the video attached my current Rottie, Abby does have a little aggression... Click to play :)
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Darth Nandopsis replied the topic: my dog oreo (pitbull)

I get it....you love the breed & want to defend it....that's your right. But, those stats were pulled from studies & medical journals & so-forth, not from TMZ. They were not skewed to make PB's look bad....those are facts. Any breed can be made to be aggressive, but it is in a PB's genetic make-up to fight. More-so now-a-days, as PB/Staffs have been bred more & more for power, skull & jaw size, & aggressiveness. The PB of 30 years ago is a much different dog than we see today. PB's are a powerful & aggressive breed, & are the breed most likely to attack unprovoked. I have seen 1st hand what PB's are quite capable of, as in a child getting mauled by a PB that was a "friendly pet that was a part of the family". I know the family personally & this thing tore his 4-yr old daughter's arm off @ the elbow. It was not a guard dog or raised for fighting...it was a "pet", & the attack was unprovoked. You want one & want to have it around your kids, again, that's your right. Me, I don't trust the breed & would never have one around children, & that's my right.

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Rocksor replied the topic: my dog oreo (pitbull)

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from the ASPCA

www.aspca.org/pet-care/virtual-pet-behaviorist/dog-behavior/truth-about-pit-bulls

When two dogs fight, the conflict is usually ritualized. The objective is for one dog to win the disagreement with little or no bloodshed. The participants try to intimidate each other by engaging in plenty of dramatic-looking behavior, which may include posturing, circling, growling, showing teeth and snarling. Bites delivered during a fight are typically inhibited because the point is to cause pain but not necessarily to inflict serious injuries. Pit bulls have been bred to behave differently during a fight. They may not give warning before becoming aggressive, and they’re less likely to back down when clashing with an opponent. When provoked, they may become aggressive more readily than another breed might. Sometimes they don’t inhibit their bites, so they may cause injury more often than other dogs.
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Pit bulls aren’t vicious monsters—but they are dogs who have been bred to fight with other dogs. While some pit bulls are indeed very easygoing, others should not be left alone with other dogs, cats or other pets.
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Pit bulls are high-energy dogs and need lots of exercise, but some just aren’t good candidates for the dog park. Because they’re very muscular and easily excited, friendly pit bulls can sometimes overwhelm and even injure their playmates during rough games. And pit bulls may become aggressive more quickly when exposed to the hectic, high-octane energy of a dog park environment. If there’s a squabble, a pit bull may be one of the first dogs to jump into the fray.

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Darth Nandopsis replied the topic: my dog oreo (pitbull)

I could posts thousands of pics of PB bites, but many are simply too gruesome for display here. Today's PB has been line-bred for generations for aggressiveness & jaw-strength, w/ horrible results. Petey it ain't....

Here some interesting stats. While all dogs(or any animla for that matter) are capable of biting, guess which breed far & away is responsible for maulings & deaths?:

images.bimedia.net/documents/Dog+attack+stats+with+breed+2012.pdf

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There is also a persistent allegation by pit bull terrier advocates that the use of media
accounts as a data source is somehow suspect. Reality is that media coverage incorporates
information from police reports, animal control reports, witness accounts, victim accounts in
many instances, and hospital reports. Media coverage is, in short, multi-sourced, unlike
reports from any single source.

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My Bassets never scare anyone.


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Here's a Basset/Beagle mix....true Bassets didn't even make it, T!!!

Basset/beagle mix 1 1 0 0 1.

The #'s represent in order Attacks doing bodily harm, child victims, adult victims, deaths, maimings. That's 1,1,0,0,1 from '82 to 2012.

Here are other "aggressive" breeds:

German shepherd 93 59 26 13 57

Rottweiler 481 272 126 78 268

Doberman 15 8 7 7 7

Akita 65 42 19 8 47

Chow 54 36 15 7 36

This is the PB's stat line in that time frame:

Pit bull terrier 1985 832 693 209 1102

No other breed/mixed breed of dog is even close to the PB's stat lines. This is a breed that is aggressive & prone to bite. 30 years of compiled stats prove that.

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