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Hi there:).

I am new to this site and oscars. I am planing to have 1 or 2. So a little about what I had in the past, I had guppies, danios, tetras, african cichlids, discus. Discus are my fav I had 8 of them but unfortunately my heater died and killed them all. Due to finance I can't afforded $300 worth of discus:(.

So I really liked the look and personality of oscars. I wanted a fish with personality like the discus.

What I have is 48x18x31 aquarium would 2 oscars be good in that? Also what tank mates would be good.

For filtration I have aquaclear 110, fluval c4, 2 sponge filters rated for 125g. My set up was more for discus.

My tank is pretty bare I plan on having a black background, white sand and a few aquarium river rocks, I have 2 fake plants.

Also what is the water change on these guys.

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Rocksor replied the topic: Some questions

First off, welcome!

Your tank works out to be 116 gallons, which is sufficient for 2 bonded pair of oscars. However, there is no guarantee that it will work in the long run if you don't get a bonded pair, especially if they are both males. If you want a higher chance at getting a pair, buy 6 of them, and wait for them to pair off at around 6-7". Rehome 2 of them, and wait another few months to confirm that you hair a pair before rehoming the last 2.

As far as filtration, you need twice that amount. Oscars are a heavy bodied fish, and 1 adult oscar produces much more waste than a single adult discus. You could probably take 4-5 discus together and it would equal the waste output of 1 12" adult oscar. You will need to add a single canister filter in the mix, either a single Rena XP 4 or a single eheim 2217 with what you already have when they both reach 1 year of age or 10".

Since you have had discus, I'll assume that you have a liquid test kit on hand and a water changer like the python. When nitrates hit 20ppm, do a 50% water change. Don't let nitrates get above 20ppm.
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DBLN8 replied the topic: Some questions

Welcome to the OFL.

Your tank although it's very tall the footprint does not lend it self to 2 Oscars. I would suggest you stick with 1 and add a small school of silver dollars if you wanted more movement. You will also be very under filtered when your O starts to put on some size, I would add a larger canister filter or at least another AQ110.

Re-place your heater, get a API fresh water test kit start cycling your tank and jump in, they are a wonderful wet pet.

Post pics using a Photobucket account when your up and running . The people on this site have a lot of knowledge about all kinds of of fish don't be afraid to ask a question.
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Unfortunately I can't afforded any more filters at the moment maybe in a few months but only a hob filter. Canisters are too expensive for me right now and they over price them where I live.

With discus I used to doing lots of water changes. I have it set up as I have a few danios in my tank right now.

Temp- 75-80f
Ph-7.0
Ammonia-0
Nitrite-0
Nitrate-.5

Yes I do have a python and test kit.
Heater is already replaced:)

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Rocksor replied the topic: Some questions

You have a year to save up for a canister if you decide to go with 2 oscars. With large heavy bodied cichlids, it is best to understock. If you only do 1 oscar, it should be enough. The test kit will let you know when it isn't.

The danios may become lunch later on when the oscars get big enough to eat them. A schooling fish would be best with a single oscar. This will disperse the aggression that he shows them. At a minimum, I would get 8 SD's (6 seems to small of a school in my experience). With 4 feet of footprint space, I would advise against adding a couple more cichlids (adding only 1 cichlid could spell disaster either for the cichlid or the oscar if they don't get along). The territory is a bit small.
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Also discus get 5-8inch and I feed beef heart ect to them. Lol but I also did 50% water changes a day. They are pretty messy too. They eat a lot 3-6 times a day to grow them out.

I never had a problem with water quality I had them for 6 month.

Also the sponge filter wouldn't work? Since there rated for 125g I have 2?

I can see what I can do about filtration probably another aq110 but that might not be untill a few months.

The danios will be rehomed

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Good your well on your way. If you purchase a small 3-4" fish you wont need to add a bigger filter for about 6- 8 months the AQ110 and the C4 you have will be fine until then.
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"Canisters are too expensive for me right now and they over price them where I live."

Obviously you have Internet access, so when you can afford it go online & purchase....you can get a very good canister(Rena XP4, Penn Plax 1500) for around $150 if you search.......or get another AC110 or Fluval C4 (which are GREAT filters, good choice!!) & squeeze it in there.

THOSE WHO REFUSE KNOWLEDGE ARE DOOMED TO FAIL.

WATER CHANGES ARE THE LIFEBLOOD OF THIS HOBBY. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE SO OR SIMPLY DON'T FEEL LIKE DOING THEM, RE-HOME YOUR FISH, SELL YOUR AQUARIUM & FIND ANOTHER HOBBY, AS YOU WILL FAIL UTTERLY, COMPLETELY, & MISERABLY.
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Rocksor replied the topic: Some questions

Discus are thin bodied compared to a full grown oscar. You have to look at body height, length, and girth when thinking about waste output (poo, and ammonia).

The 2 HOBs that you have are good for 1 adult oscar. However, the sponge filters may not work out in the long run. If the oscar feels like it, it will rip the sponge filters. I've never had success with keeping sponge filters with an oscar. For some reason they like to chew pieces off of it. Just save up for a year, and keep the money in the bank, just in case the sponge filters don't work out.

I don't recommend beef heart for oscars. In the long run, it's like prepping them up for a heart attack in 6 years.
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I do not want to buy anything more unless something breaks. I am not rich I am more poor lol.

I can afforded a aquaclear 110 in a few months. I have everything set up and do not want to by more things. Where I already spent over my limit.

Canisters are great but I can't afforded one not even off the internet unless there for free? Lol


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