Making the Switch.

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Well I'm going into town today after some sand. This Stuff is what I'm getting, or at least looking for something similar. It was suggested to me in this thread . So I've seen thread about sand all over the place but I wanted a collective place to ask my questions, and I have many so here it goes:

1. How many 50ib bags would be good for a 75 gallon and how deep would you suggest making the sand?

2. If I can't find this particular sand, what am I looking for in a sand? I know non-dyed, but what else?

3. How would you suggest switching it? I was planning on changing about 85-90% water in that tank today, should I do it when the water is out? Should I take my oscar out while I do this?

4. The sand I've given a link to, I've been told it's abrasive, by someone who actually uses it for it original purpose, so if I end up with a full grown oscar who likes to dig would it be too sharp for his face? I just don't want him to end up injured.

Ok I think that is all the questions I can think of for the moment. Thanks in advance for any advice you might be able to give me.
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DBLN8 replied the topic: Making the Switch.

- I think 1 bag would be more than enough for a 75.
- Pool filter sand IMO is the best. Stay away from play sand requires to much cleaning.
- If its possible I would take your O out. Turn off your filters drain down the tank and scoop out the old substrate.
- I've never used that type, but I know big Ken has it in some tanks. their is a post on here somewhere with the recommended grit size..

Found it, go to page 3 for the grit size.

www.oscarfishlover.com/forum/24-setting-up-an-oscar-fish-aquarium/303201-sand-vs-gravel?start=20
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robham7770 replied the topic: Making the Switch.

Nyx, I have never used the black diamond sand, but I think one of the moderators here (Jasonr) used it in his umbee tank, so I would think it is suitable substrate for an oscar. I have seen some arguments made against using it based more on possible impurities in it than on its abrasive nature, but have never seen anyone claim it actually harmed their fish. I have used pool filter sand in all my 75's, and one 50lb bag should give you a nice 1/2"+ layer, but unlike gravel sand will disappear gradually with wc. With sand you can get away with a thicker layer if you want, since any debris in the tank will simply stay on the surface and not get worked down into it. I would rinse the sand first, take the fish out, remove the gravel, vac the tank, add the sand, and then do a big wc to help clear up any cloudiness. Good luck, and Thor should look really good with the black background.
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Nyx replied the topic: Making the Switch.

Ok cool thanks for responding guys! im on a nonsmart phone responding so ill be able to post a better reply later.

yeah i reall like the pool filter sand too, i actually have about 25ibs of it im my garage. i was just going for the black dimond because i wanted some black sand.

ok i will take Thor out to do this water change. should i put him in a cooler with a battery operated airiator? i dont have a back up tank that is big enough for him anymore. i would put him in there with his own tank water.

ok well like i said i can reply later and it will make more since. im actually on the way to the store now. so thanks everyone for your responces!
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DBLN8 replied the topic: Making the Switch.

Cooler would be fine, Just make sure it's clean with no chemical residue on it. When I switched mine over My O was put in a 40 gallon Rubbermaid tub.
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robham7770 replied the topic: Making the Switch.

I used this set up a while back for some fish. I think the container was $10 at home depot, and I just used a filter off the tank which is good for the filter as well as the fish.

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Big-Ken replied the topic: Re:Making the Switch.

Crap sorry i forgot to respond to your pm :blush:

1. 1 bag in my 90g made about a 1" bed and your 75g is the same foot print so it should be identical

2. Not sure all ive ever used is this and PFS

3. You could do it with your O in the tank just dump it to one side and spread it over, this stuff has a oiliness to it so rinse the shit out of it

4. My O also diggs no issues that i can see yet just be careful when cleaning the glass you dont want any of this trapped between your mag float
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Nyx replied the topic: Making the Switch.

Ok, I home now so I can better respond. Well 4.5 hours, 5 home improvement/tool stores, and 2 states later no black dimond sand :blink: I still have a few stores to check but I may either a. Order it online or b. Go with pool filter sand as it's easy for me to get, I just wants the black diamond or something similar because of the color. Hrm...I could always start removing the gravel in the meantime.

@DB, ok I think I have a cooler that fits the bill.

@Robham I also like hat you did there. I have a ton of those bins laying around but we've used them for storing various things over the years so idk if I trust them. Maybe I'll see if I can get the filter on one of my coolers.

@big-ken, haha I was wondering if you saw it lol. It's alright though. Ok 1 bag it is then. I also never thought about it getting trapped on something like that against the glass, I'll have to be careful.

Well thanks for all the help guys! I'll keep you updated on my apparent quest for some black sand. Also if I have anymore questions I'll let ya know :cheer:
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