Cycling my aquarium

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Okay awesome so I decided not to go with the carbon. I was extremely thorough during cleaning so I should be good. But just in case after I filled the aquarium back up I did a test for ammonia just incase and came up at 0ppm so I should be good. Anyways I finally got the aquarium all up and running again today. I dosed with the ace hardware ammonia today, I will continue until I am at 3ppm? or 4ppm in that ballpark, and will continue testing and dosing daily. Thanks again everyone for all the help. I will keep you all updated.

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finger cross...good luck...
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Thank you. It's been 3 days so far and I have tested every day it continues to stay steady at about 4ppm. I am assuming some patience is needed since I have no seeding material. I am considering going to my LFS to ask for some today. It's hard though I just don't know how much I trust a fish store to be completely healthy and unfortunately any friends I have who have aquariums I'm tempted to say definitely are not healthy. Anyways it's day 3 I will keep you all posted.
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Rocksor replied the topic: Cycling my aquarium

If you are using the ammonia test from API, it will be difficult to tell if the ammonia reading is 4ppm or 6ppm, and having ammonia close to 5ppm or higher will stall the cycle. I would get the ammonia down to between 2-34ppm with 25% water change.

Also, make sure that the spray bar isn't too low, like you have in the picture, you won't have too much surface agitation with that. Have the spray bar just below the water line and point the nozzle up so that the water surface is rippling and producing waves. You can get waves to be produced without any noise. Without surface agitation, there will be not enough oxygen in the water to allow bacteria to grow properly, and your new fish will end up suffocating within 24-48 hours.
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Okay I will do all of that today and lower the ammonia to 2/3 ppm, I have an air pump that is going to be delivered this afternoon I intend to set up so maybe that will help also. Unfortunately I just don't have anywhere I can get some seeding material from. I have one friend but I don't trust putting anything in his tank in my brand new one honestly. I was also a little unsure about my LFS but I called to ask anyways and they said no lol so I guess I am just gonna have to hope I can get this started without it. Unfortunately my good LFS I am getting my Oscar from I know they would do it but they are 2 hours away so it isn't an option right now.
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I will also say I don't know if it matters, I know what you mean with the API test kit it is hard to tell. But when I dosed my tank with ammonia I did 1 tablespoon and I got the information to do so from a calculator and when I tested it 20 min later it came up at 4ppm. So I'm not sure how exact it is but I didn't have to add any more
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allow the system run for 2 days and tested the water for nitrite and nitrate...
there should be nitrate already on the 3rd day... if none, there is still no bb in the system
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Really in two days I should have nitrites? I must be using the wrong fish less cycle guide or something cause I have gotten a lot of wrong information during this process. My last tank was a few years back and I just did a combination of API quick start and a couple hardy fish but I was also new to the hobby and told to do that by the LFS. I just wanted to do everything right this time. I wanted to cycle my aquarium the right way and do a fishless cycle and create a strong bio filter. Hopefully I can get it this time. I just am finding a lot of contradicting information from guide to guide.
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Rocksor replied the topic: Cycling my aquarium

With a fishless cycle, and non-seeded media, it will take more than 3 days to get nitrites or nitrates. It could be a couple of weeks before ammonia even goes down. Guides are different because people have different water conditions, from temperature to amount of oxygen in the water and even amount of space for bacteria growth.

Here are some things to remember

1. keep ammonia dosage below 4ppm, it is generally agreed when you hit 5ppm the fishless cycle will stall. The API kit jumps from 4ppm to 8ppm, so you will never know when you hit 5 ppm in ammonia dosing. The calculator is a good start but the kit is the best indicator, so stick to between 2ppm to 4ppm of ammonia dosing.

2. keep temperature around 82f for optimal bacteria growth

3. make sure that there is enough water surface agitation to ensure oxygen exchange for the bacteria

4. Test for ph, and make sure that it does not drop below 6.5. Ammonia and the bacterial process will cause ph to go down. A simple water change will raise the PH.

5. when you finally see ammonia disappearing to 0ppm in 24 hours, do not add more ammonia until the 2nd day. You need time for nitrite growing bacteria to process the nitrite.
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Alright so I did about a 30% water change yesterday, and I tested the water afterwards and it was a little lighter but looks like it is now somewhere between 2-4 ppm so I am assuming the amount I used was a little much last time perhaps. I raised my spray bar and set up my new air pump in there. I cranked my heater up to 82 degrees even though for some reason it is sitting at 81.8 degrees I'm thinking that should be fine. It's been a day now and I am waiting to see what happens. When I test for ammonia it seems to still be kinda dark and towards 4ppm so I considered doing another water change today. It means nothing to me as with my setup it only takes about 10 minutes to drain half of my tank. But I decided to wait it out as it seems like it is on the lesser side of 4ppm now and a little lighter. I will keep you all updated. Should just be a waiting game now.
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