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That's fine by me. I don't want to waste any money anyways I got real stuff I need. It's no big deal I will take my time. While everybody is here on this post though I do have one question. So this canister filter I got for this tank is a SunSun hw-304b and I knew it was cheap but I figured it could last until the Oscar gets a little bigger. Well I decided I don't want this thing anymore cause it is kinda loud and has a crackling sound inside of it and compared to my two Eheims downstairs it sounds like a vacuum cleaner or something. Anyways I don't like it. I also found out its power usage is off the damn charts. So I decided to ditch it. Anyways obviously I have already started the cycling process with it though. I ordered a API Filstar XP-XL Filter to replace this one on my 75 gallon. Is there a Safe way to switch them out during the cycling without losing my progress? If I take the bio media the ceramic rings, and the gallon of seachem matrix I have in there and put them on the new filter will that be okay? Or should j take the fine filter and coarse filter pads and leave them in the tank for a while also? I just don't want to lose any progress I already have. I will probably toss the filter in the basement for a rainy day in case the new one ever has a problem. I was gonna go Eheim because it's what I know and I have never had a bad experience with it but for the price I got this thing for I thought it was worth it to try a new brand.
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Suprd71 replied the topic: Cycling my aquarium

Congrats on the Filstar purchase. I have a whole herd of them. Hands down best filter anywhere imo. Transfer the ceramics from the SS into the new can, fire it up.You may need more media, Filstar comes with none. Not sure what the SS holds, but the Filstar holds about 6lbs.


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I have the ceramic rings from the sunsun inside that it came with, I really just used them on the bottom of it to help filter though lol. I bunch of seachem matrix inside of it that I can transfer over. And still like a half a gallon of the stuff I can rinse and add as well. Should I even bother with the filter pads? Or is just the bio media okay? I have never owned a filstar so I was unsure. Quality wise my Eheim was great. But for the price the filstar xl-xl I couldn't not go with it over the 2217. Also with regard to the filter the only problem is some sites say it is 22" in height others say it is 18. Unfortunately if it is 22 I might need to do some modifying to my stand to make it fit underneath my aquarium my stand I built custom for the sunsun is 33 inches in height but the bottom shelf I built into it is like 10 inches off the ground so that is really close you know? You wouldn't happen to know what the dimensions are for the API Filstar XP-XL would you?
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Also one more question sorry, setting up this aquarium and all I have about a million different questions lol Okay so my aquarium is quite bare when it comes to decorations I have spent the majority of my time and money making sure it has everything it needs to cycle properly and care for the fish but I havn't put alot of effort into decorating it. I decided a while ago however that I wanted a more natural look to it. I have been on the lookout for large rocks, stones, and driftwood lately. But when I was working in my backyard yesterday I realized that I have a ton of rock left over from an outdoor pond the last owners of the house used to have. Apparently they own the LFS here where I live. Anyways I have no idea what kind of rock this stuff is and I am sure it has been outside for years. But some of it looks really cool some have decent size holes in them for fish to swim through others have flat surfaces. I am curious if it is safe, and or if there is a way to make it safe to add an outdoor rock to my aquarium? Unfortunately I have no idea what it was used for before and whether it was used inside the pond for the fish or outside the pond for decorations. Here is a picture of the rock I am referring to just in case it helps you identify what kind, and or if it is safe or not. Perhaps I can boil it or something? I don't know. Thank you for any information everyone.


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Yes the 22in is an accurate practical height, with the tubing needing some clearance as to not crimp. The actual can itself is in the 18 range. Width on top, hinge to hinge is 9 3/8. The filter will come with 2 sponges for the bottom tray. A 20ppi(pores per inch) and a finer 30ppi. They go on top of each other. Also comes with a finer pad that goes in the top tray. This pad will need rinsing before the bottom ones. Every other stitch of room should be ceramics. As for the rocks, they should be fine. Rinse them, boil for 5mins and good to use. You can do the vinegar test to confirm, pour vinegar on, if you get no fizz, they are fine. All my tanks have outdoor rocks, no issues. A light layer of substrate, couple large rocks and a piece or two of wood, and you have an Oscar friendly tank.


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Dang that is unfortunate it is just barely to tall. Oh well still worth it. I will just have to figure something out maybe cut the dimensions out of the bottom shelf so it can sit directly on the carpet or something lol or even just have it in the corner off of the stand I suppose. Anyways I am glad I can use that rock some of those pieces I think will look good in my tank. Thanks again for all of your help suprd71 and to everyone else who helped me out during this process.
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I Also actually one more question since you own an API Filstar. I purchased it for the price and power and the easy priming feature. Something my Eheims did not have. However I didn't really take into consideration that this is for the tank in my bedroom. Part of the problem I have currently with my sunsun is its loud and it is especially loud considering the impeller came bent on it and makes a grinding sound even though it seems to work Amazon wouldn't take it unless I accept only 50 % of what I paid. But anyways point is I knew something is wrong as I have two eheim 2217s downstairs and you can't even tell they are running. Is the Filstar similar in that regard? I ask because my tank sits near my bed and I have a few tv shows I am addicted to that this current canister filter is making difficult to hear lol a little hum or something isn't a big deal but I am also willing to transfer an Eheim from my 150 to my 75 if that is better. I just like the idea of the Filstar on this tank is all. Also so the filter comes with everything needed except the ceramics? just curious because I already have ceramics and matrix from the other filter I can use.
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Haha, lucky you. I have 2 bedroom tanks and 3 Filstars running in there. They are very quiet. A slight hum in a totally silent room is all you may hear, if that. The ones in my fishroom, if I dont see surface movement I have to touch them to see if they are running.


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Ok that works. I don't mind the white noise. My sunsun has a kinda loud white noise to it and it didn't really bother me. Just the loud metal on metal grinding is what bothers me. I like the basket design though. And the self priming. The idea of not having to suck fish water is a + for me lol thanks again I have a lot of bulk coarse and fine filter pads for the sunsun I am thinking might even be able to work on the Filstar if I just cut them to fit. But we will see.
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Well, @TrevorB206, it looks like my cycle has stalled as well. I'm at Day 13, and my ammonia has been at 4ppm since day 7.

@Rocksor had suggested that I dose ammonia at 2-3ppm since the test kit doesn't differentiate between 4-5ppm. Even though my math says that the tank should've been no higher than 3.25ppm, when the levels didn't drop after almost a week, I decided to change the water and dose at an even lower level.

I did a 100% water change last night. This morning the tank tested at 0ppm, and I added 5mL The tank is 122x61x33cm, so I calculated gross volume to be 246L. I subtracted out 10% water displacement for the decorations and substrate and arrived at a net volume of 221L. If my calculations are correct, 5mL of ammonia should dose this sized tank up to around 2.26ppm.

Can anyone explain precisely how the test kit works? Specifically, the API kit has a color chart from yellow to green with ammonia levels of 0, 0.25, 0.5, 1, 2, 4, and 8. If I match my sample to the color corresponding to 4, does that mean that the tank is between 2-4ppm or between 4-8ppm? I want to dose at a high enough level to encourage bacteria growth without going overboard. I have heard from several sources that as the tank approaches 5ppm, the bacteria won't grow.

I'll continue to monitor the tank and post back with updates.
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