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mroylands replied the topic: Re: Is it worth?

sorry iv just never seen anything as u described im in australia and the onley aquarium plants ive seen here is the ones in the little pots that sink to the bottum in the LFS i would love to give it a go but i have no idear where i would find ivy u described and i am worred that if i did they might have no idear if its toxic to fish or not as all my fish have a nibble at the plants (eg garden center)

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Sosban Fach replied the topic: Re: Is it worth?

Most definatly. I've found my baby o isn't bothering the plants at all, the sev is slowly going off them, but it has to be said out of the varieties that I have tried the java fern has been more or less left alone. The sev took a few bites and has left it alone since, a lot of websites suggest that there's something about the taste that turns them off.

Apprently java ferns require live rock or bogwood to grow sufficient roots, they shouldnt be dumped straight into substraight because they are supposed to die back. Saying that I put my plants in substrate without knowing this and there doing fine. In fact ive got new growth and baby java ferns growing on top.

They require, medium to low light, no need for fertilisers (your fish will provide that) and no need for a c02 diffuser. Another plant worth looking into is anubias, tough plant, slow growth, low light requirement. I haven't tried it yet but will be next month. Amazon sword is supposed to be really good because it's a tough plant, but my lil sev has taken chunks out of the leaves and it gradually died back. It might have died back due to other reasons, so by all means give it a go anyway.

I would say in terms of how many, the more the merrier, but every plant you put in takes space from your fish.

If your fish seems unbothered by plants throw almost everything you can find and see what happens. If your fish decides it doesn't like plants then the java fern should atleast remain.

If your trying to get rid of nitrates in general, look into some bio plastics. I've got some nox bio plastics in my filter and they seem to be doing well.
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Kaiser replied the topic: Re: Is it worth?

Thank you for that very informative advice! I just acquired a new 125g tank and I'll look up those plants you mentioned to see if I can get it in my LFS.

By the way, I've never heard of bio plastics before. What exactly are they and where can you buy them?

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Sosban Fach replied the topic: Re: Is it worth?

No eBay APP ID défined in Kunena configurationIm sure if you asked your LFS they will be able to order some plants in for you. If not you can easily get them via ebay, or delivery from various online plants sellers.

www.twolittlefishies.com/tlf_prod_access.html?lang_id=1

"NPX Bioplastics® granular media made from biodegradable polymers. For use in a fluidized reactor. The slow release of organic food from these plastics promotes the development of bacteria that assimilate nitrate and phosphate. These bacteria can be harvested by protein skimmers, so that the nitrate and phosphate levels are naturally reduced. The bacteria are also a food source for filter-feeding invertebrates such as corals, clams, sponges, and feather dusters."

I bought mine through ebay; there more specifically for use in a reactor, but you can just chuck them into a filter providing you have enough flow. You need flow to prevent the build up of hydrogen gas, (I think its hydrogen)

Mine are in a cansiter filter, I don't know how they will fair in a HOB filter. I got them partly out of desperation having high nitrates out of the tap, since Ive bought a reverse osmosis system and my nitrate levels are under control.

Iv'e had mine in for about a month now and nitrate levels are dropping; although that may be due to a low bioload and twice weekly 5% water changes, with RO water. My fish are only 3-4".

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mishka replied the topic: Re: Is it worth?

I don't know if someone has already mentioned this to you but when my mom had 6 Oscars she had a lot of Swordplants. They do well with Oscars, they are a very tough plant, and whenever one of the Oscars either ate some of it or tried to destroy it, it would grow back pretty damn quick. She always has success with Swordplants and Oscars, eventually, the Oscar will grow tired of the sword plant and will leave them alone.

I mean 6 Oscars with a sword plant you would think it would be gone within a day but it lasted pretty well :) They are tough plants and they are healthy plants as well.

The only main reason why they work so well too is because of how fast they grow, they just seem to grow a lot faster than any other fresh water plant.

Hope that helps ya :)
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Kaiser replied the topic: Re: Is it worth?

Thanks to both of you! I definitely want to give that a try.

@Sosban: Is it true that using an RO filter actually waste water? I've been thinking of getting one out of desperation since my tap has at least 20ppm nitrates. I'll definitely give the bioplastics a try though would it work better if I put it in a phosban reactor or is it just the same as putting it in a canister?

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Capt Dave replied the topic: Re: Is it worth?

Ro water does waste a lot of water. When I lived in bethpage we had the same issue with nitrates in the tap water so I totally feel your pain. You can use half ro and half tap water when you do your water changes but I highly recommend the pothos ivy setup like I mentioned. It slowed nitrate accumulation considerably better than when it was in the hob

I have no idea why the water bill is so high
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Kaiser replied the topic: Re: Is it worth?

Yeah, I was going to do that. I left like a 6" gap between the wall and the tank so I can let the photos grow at the back. All I need are suction cups and just stick them at the back of the tank, right?
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Capt Dave replied the topic: Re: Is it worth?

Yea get the airline suction cups and stick them right on the back of the tank. The ivy will grow over the top of the tank and the roots will hang in the tank. They grow fast and are nitrogen hogs. Just be sure to stick a long stem below the water line. The more stem submerged the more roots will pop and the healthier the plant will be

I have no idea why the water bill is so high
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Kaiser replied the topic: Re: Is it worth?

Thanks! I'll try that. I'm so desperate about nitrates that I'm up to anything that might help me reduce them. If I had a 10 gallon tank, I would probably just buy a distilled water lol.
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