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DRACO replied the topic: Re:oscar community

how about for different kind of fish? ihave a white pangasius with red eyes, how would you consider it?

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bskelton0907 replied the topic: Re:oscar community

Usually no pigmintatation in eyes/skin/fins indicates albinoism. With your pangasius I would lean on the true albino side due to the lack of pigmintatation in his eyes and skin
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DRACO replied the topic: Re:oscar community

please don't get tired of my questioning, i just need new opinion for my files of info...
because a few years back, i 've got these two oscars that never develop red pigmentation...
they were sold as red but grows up white with blue eyes...

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UNC-CH replied the topic: oscar community

I would call that leucism. They have lost their ability to produce red/orange pigmentation, but can still produce black ... like this leucistic tiger.

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bskelton0907 replied the topic: Re:oscar community

There definitely the red oscar variety. Thats for sure. The red just didnt come out the way it should. Ive seen normal tigers that there orange looked a little washed but sure enough it was still a normal little healthy oscar
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DRACO replied the topic: oscar community

UNC-CH wrote: I would call that leucism. They have lost their ability to produce red/orange pigmentation, but can still produce black ... like this leucistic tiger.


thanks for the input UNC-CH...

based on the previous info and interpretation plus these new inputs, and google, can only sum-up the ff:
1) leucistic fish = light color with normal eyes (leuc = white)
2) albino fish = light color fish with pink or red eyes (albus=white)
3) melanistic fish = any deep color (abundance of pigmentation)

therefore we can not blame people to differ in calling their light color fish an ALBINO... LOL!
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DRACO wrote: please don't get tired of my questioning, i just need new opinion for my files of info...
because a few years back, i 've got these two oscars that never develop red pigmentation...
they were sold as red but grows up white with blue eyes...


By far my favorite picture ever!!! good to see you again draco I see you are flooding the site with great shots as always!

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OFL replied the topic: Re:oscar community

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noodle replied the topic: oscar community

Draco your fish are amazing! I wish that I lived near you so I could come over and drool on your tanks (not that there is anything wrong with that).

I think many people claim anything that is light in colour to be an albino without having any understanding of what "albino" means. Albinism is a recessive genetic disorder which is not always as obvious as we wish it was. Sometimes an animal that has no pigmentation and red eyes is albino but unfortunately it is not that cut and dry, sometimes a red eyed no pigmentation animal is not an albino. I know with mice there are white genes and red eye genes that are completely different to albinism. It is possible to have a red eyed white mouse that is not albino, the only way to know apart from genetic tests would be to breed it with another mouse of known genetics or to know the history of its parentage.

I don't know much about oscar colour genetics but from what I have seen in oscar colouring I think it is safe to assume that there is a lot going on and it is not necessarily safe to call any white oscar with red eyes an albino. We have all seen whit oscars with red eyes and a black dot on them somewhere which tells us they are not true albino. I dare say that only a genetic test could confirm if an oscar fish is a true albino or not.
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DRACO replied the topic: Re:oscar community

ehall67 wrote:
By far my favorite picture ever!!! good to see you again draco I see you are flooding the site with great shots as always!


wow... nice to see you back Ed... school time over? thanks budy!
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