Trouble at lake Malawi

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ehall67 replied the topic: Trouble at lake Malawi

thats rough..


they need to put some mountain ranges in that lake make some new habitats for them since they do not do deep water

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Big-Ken replied the topic: Re: Trouble at lake Malawi

They need to do something that would be an enormous loss to not only the aquarium hobby but the world, this is also exactly why preservation of the individual species is so important hybridization will result in the eventual extinction of mbuna from the hobby as will :-(
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ehh replied the topic: Trouble at lake Malawi

I wonder what kind of adversities our great great grandchildren will have to over come? I know this thread is about fish but it says so much about the condition the world is in.
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Please do not flame me for this. I am sitting here looking at my Tiger Oscar, and the fish stores are full of tiger Oscars and who knows how many other fish species pulled from the natural habitat for us to enjoy in a fish tank.

Just sayen it seems a bit arbitrary to say habitat lost, fish stock down in the wild while we enjoyment having these same fish in our tanks for our enjoyment.

not just fish but many other animals that are on demand for pets are diminishing the natural stock.

we do have an impact.
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Big-Ken replied the topic: Re: Trouble at lake Malawi

I feel your mistaken about our narrow mindedness i feel strongly about the need for preservation of any living creature but i for obvious reasons have a vested interest in those of the aquatic variety.

You miss the point of the article, over fishing isn't to blame it's the rapid decline in the water level is destroying there natural environment pushing them into open water reducing the fish population aka they are being eaten by larger predators at an alarming rate and extinction will be in our lifetime
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Popss wrote: Please do not flame me for this. I am sitting here looking at my Tiger Oscar, and the fish stores are full of tiger Oscars and who knows how many other fish species pulled from the natural habitat for us to enjoy in a fish tank.

Just sayen it seems a bit arbitrary to say habitat lost, fish stock down in the wild while we enjoyment having these same fish in our tanks for our enjoyment.

not just fish but many other animals that are on demand for pets are diminishing the natural stock.

we do have an impact.


With the exception of some SW species, & few FW ones, all the fish you see in fish stores are captive bred. There are no "Tiger" Oscars in the wild, that is a man-made strain. I honestly haven't seen any "wild-caught" cichlids or other fish in any LFS in my area for decades. If you really want to obtain wild-caught, you have to go through a broker or a breeder these days.

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Popss replied the topic: Re: Trouble at lake Malawi

this could get very deep and heated, just sayen the pet industry makes a very large impact on native stock and by having them we support this to some extent. . Do not think that can be argued.

i have tropic fish and have had reptiles in the past. I am not innocent of the fact just put out there as something we as exotic pet keepers should keep in mind before we maker preservation statements less we call the kettle black.
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Not getting heated, just stating fact.....with the exception of the Clown Loaches I have, none of the fish I have or ever had were wild caught(I do have F1's), & I've been keeping fish for almost 42 years. I don't know of any pet stores anywhere around me that carry wild-caught stock, even African cichlids; even the cichlids we bought when I managed a LFS back in the late 80's carried wild caught stock, all were bred in pools in Florida. Certainly breeders like Jeff Rapps offer WC stock occassionally, & some impact is made, but not to the extent anymore like it was when this hobby 1st started. I would say in all fairness that probably 90% of FW aquarium fish are captive bred; SW is a different story.

I do believe more of a impact is made in the countries where a great deal of these fish originate, as the indigenous people eat everything they catch.

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WATER CHANGES ARE THE LIFEBLOOD OF THIS HOBBY. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE SO OR SIMPLY DON'T FEEL LIKE DOING THEM, RE-HOME YOUR FISH, SELL YOUR AQUARIUM & FIND ANOTHER HOBBY, AS YOU WILL FAIL UTTERLY, COMPLETELY, & MISERABLY.
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Big-Ken replied the topic: Re: Trouble at lake Malawi

AGAIN REREAD THE ARTICLE!!! The decline is due to environmental changes not over fishing
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