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Hello all, and thanks in advance for any assistance rendered.

I have a 9" Tiger Oscar named Zatara (Z for short). He's quite healthy as best I can tell. I maintain a balanced diet, his fins look good, his colors are vivid, etc. I do regular water changes, and he's not in a new environment. He's been in the same tank in the same spot for about 7 months.

Recently my hood light died. I tried to repair it but I was unsuccessful. So for the past couple weeks he's only had whatever light comes from the room & windows. He used to have a tank mate but I gave his mate to a friend who bought a 120gal for him. All that said, he eats just fine...but he just lays on the bottom in the corner. Pretty much ALL the time.

If I come up to the tank and shake the food bag he'll get excited and come to the top wanting food. If I tap the top of the water he'll come up and eat or look around, but 85% of the time he just lays in the corner. His fins are spread out and he doesn't look sickly while he's doing it. He's just not very active. My roomates fish (both Oscars) are very active. They're always swimming around, up & down the bubbles, etc.

Am I doing something wrong? Is it because I don't have a light? Does he need more attention? A tank mate? Different food? It's really sad to see him so "ho-hum!" Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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It could be the lack of light - he has been conditioned to associate the light with day time and dark with night time. He might be sulking because it is different. But a few questions..

When did you get rid of the tank mate?
How big is your tank?
Water maintenance schedule?
Ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and pH?
Filtration?

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Thanks for the quick response, Sharyn.

I got rid of his tank mate about 2 months ago. I must admit, he has seemed a lot less active since I did. When I first took his tank mate out he acted a bit depressed for weeks. He hasn't really been the same since.

It's a 55gal tank. I do 20% water changes almost weekly. (Sometimes I forget I haven't done it :\

I'm using a Cascade 1200 Canister Filter (315gph). There are three (3) trays, two (2) are biological, and one (1) is floss. If it's of any consequence, half the time he sits by the heater, the other half he sits by the filter intake.

The levels: PH = 7.0, Ammonia <0.02ppm, Nitrites=0, Nitrates=about 18ppm
I haven't tested myself, but that's what the Pet Store told me. Honestly, I don't think the guy knew what he was doing. He looked confused.
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sharyn replied the topic: Re: He just lays in the corner...

OK I would invest in a liquid test kit - without it you are flying blind.

From what you have told me unless you are overfeeding him, your set up should be OK.

In 2010 I had to Euthenase an Oscar because she had become egg bound and was in a really bad way. She was in a tank with two other Oscars. After she died it took probably 6 months for them to stop just sulking at the bottom in the corner. I even put another Oscar in to try to jolt them out of their depression, but that did not have a lasting effect - after a few days they were back on the bottom again.

Try a nice big 50% water change and some stimulating food like crickets. Get the light fixed and for a few weeks try extra hard to do some 30% water changes. Also, really, get that test kit so that you can rule out water quality.

Good Luck!

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Yea, I've been looking at those kits. Petsmart has them for about $30. I'll check Amazon and see if I can find them cheaper perhaps.

I'm pretty sure I don't overfeed him. He gets some Hikari bloodworms in the morning, and some Hikari Gold pellets in the evening. He swallows one cube whole & it's all he gets. The pellets I put a couple in at a time to make sure he eats them. Usually he eats about 12-20 of the medium pellets. I'm looking at going up to the large ones so it's easier.

I've speculated that he's been angry/sad with me ever since I removed his tank mate. They both shared the tank since they were just teeny tiny little fellas. I always intended on getting a bigger tank and keeping both. Finances have not allowed me to do so. So my best friend decided to "rescue" one of them instead. They were with each other from about an 1" in size till they were both around 6". Then the tank was just getting way too small and they started to fight.

The few days immediately after I removed Number 2, Z would bash into things non-stop. Uprooting plants, breaking my filter head, etc. Then it turned to depression.

The other one (Number 2 is actually his name) is downstairs. My roommate/best friend has a 120gal, and he's the one who "rescued" Number 2. Number 2 swims around even a lot more than Z does. It's sad, really.

I'll do a 50% water change tonight, and I'll grab him some crickets from the Pet Store while I'm out. Thanks again for all your help!
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Also, I'm sorry to hear about having to put your Oscar down. I know how attached I am to mine, and that would be pretty heart wrenching. :(
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No worries, thanks - yes it was awful I had her for a few years. But it was best for her - she was never going to recover... this is what she looked like..

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