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i been having problems last couple months with my tanks. i lost one oscar and managed to save the other one and took one of my albinos back from my son and so i have 2 oscars. figured i was having ammonia build up and maybe stressed my two cansitor filters right to the max and was slowly killing my fish. this kind of started happening a little while after i stopped using charcoal and ammonia bags. i've been doing 25% water changed without fail since then with a occasional 50 for good measure, this is in a 130 gallon. was having the same problems in my 25 and same counter measures where taken, lost a couple of parrots i was trying to raise with a few other types of fish nammies and neons. left things alone and this week added a parrot and pleco to the small tank. my oscars started acting sickly so did a 30% water change added new sponge filters and 1 ammonia bag to filter just to see if it helps. just wondering what people think of ammonia bags and will they help keep things in line. i even cut back on there food intake where as used to feed them lots of shrimp and few pellets and now maybe 20 pellets most days and switch up to a piece of shrimp every second third day. ps don't ask what ph/amm/nit/nat are as have no time today.
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big10inch wrote: i been having problems last couple months with my tanks. i lost one oscar and managed to save the other one and took one of my albinos back from my son and so i have 2 oscars. figured i was having ammonia build up and maybe stressed my two cansitor filters right to the max and was slowly killing my fish. this kind of started happening a little while after i stopped using charcoal and ammonia bags. i've been doing 25% water changed without fail since then with a occasional 50 for good measure, this is in a 130 gallon. was having the same problems in my 25 and same counter measures where taken, lost a couple of parrots i was trying to raise with a few other types of fish nammies and neons. left things alone and this week added a parrot and pleco to the small tank. my oscars started acting sickly so did a 30% water change added new sponge filters and 1 ammonia bag to filter just to see if it helps. just wondering what people think of ammonia bags and will they help keep things in line. i even cut back on there food intake where as used to feed them lots of shrimp and few pellets and now maybe 20 pellets most days and switch up to a piece of shrimp every second third day. ps don't ask what ph/amm/nit/nat are as have no time today.


Ok I don't use ammonia bags so I can't help you there. But what I can tell you is that if you are losing fish... You had better test your water.. Weather you have time or not.

And the water readings will ALWAYS be one of the first questions asked!
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Rocksor replied the topic: Re: ammonia bags

I use to use ammonia bags, but using things like stress out and amquel do the same thing. Ammonia bags are only a band aid to the underlying problem in a fish tank.

Personally, I would test your water in the tank, and test the water out of the tap to get a baseline.

What canisters are you using? Do you clean them out every 3 months with old tank water?
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jacki.r3 replied the topic: Re: ammonia bags

I've tried ammonia bags and can't see where they did any good. Now only use Prime with w/c which I was doing daily then every other day.
Good idea to check tap water as that was where my ammonia was coming from..I now use rainwater that I collect and bottled water which tests good although it is a bit soft, but not so low as to create a problem according to what I have read.
I agree, take the time to test as fish are at least in distress if not dead.
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big10inch replied the topic: Re: ammonia bags

don't get me wrong i do test my water and all seems normal. just can't do it today as it takes me about 20 min. tell me more about cleaning my filters with old water. i run with 2 305 fluvals.
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big10inch replied the topic: Re: ammonia bags

could be thats my problem my tap water i will test that first when i get a moment. 130 gallon tank i'm not going to buy bottled water for it though. i just put one ammonia bag in one filter just to see if it helps things out as my fish are on the bottem 70% of the time and makes me wonder. they look normal as far as slime coat goes not scratching off of things. they just look down and out. just did a 30% water change yesterday and put aqua plus in for clorine and slime coat. add cycle to water everytime i do a water change and other than that everything should be in check.
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Oscars should be swimming the whole length and depth of the tank.

You dont need to add cycle to a cycled tank every water change. It's only needed for a new tank that has not been cycled. Maybe that's the problem. Also, there's a chance that the city changed something in the water.

Maybe there isn't enough oxygen in your 130 tank. Put the spary bars above the water line so that when the water hits the tank it produces a lot of bubbles.

The way that I clean cansiters is to open one fluval 305, as you drain the water from the tank, rinse all the media and insides of the cansiter using the removed tank water to get all the brown gunk from inside. This will make sure you do not kill the beneficial bacteria that helps to process the ammonia -> nitrite -> nitrate. Using tap water will kill all of those good bacteria. I tend to do this every 3 months or so, alternating between my two canister filters. I don't clean both on the same day to reduce the risk of killing too many bene bacteria.
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big10inch replied the topic: Re: ammonia bags

thanks for that tip. anyway my ph is the same 7-7.5, ammonia 0, nitrite .1 and my nitrate is 5. i have air hose that goes halfway down the tank my outtake to my filters come up through the bottem so thats out. also use a powerhead with sponge filter to polish things up. the cycle i use every now and again.
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big10inch wrote: thanks for that tip. anyway my ph is the same 7-7.5, ammonia 0, nitrite .1 and my nitrate is 5. i have air hose that goes halfway down the tank my outtake to my filters come up through the bottem so thats out. also use a powerhead with sponge filter to polish things up. the cycle i use every now and again.


You could have better filtration - two 1000 lph canisters on a roughly 500 litre tank equals 4 times per hour which is a little low - but if they are working to capacity they might just be OK. Your readings are OK. How many fish in total are in the tank? What is the temp? Are you using test strips or a liquid test kit?

Canister bio media should be rinsed in tank water only so you dont kill your good bacteria. The goal is to keep them from clogging but keep them a bit dirty. Clean is BAD.

There might be some good stuff for you to read on the helpful articles.

I dont use ammonia bags or cycle...just a good conditioner at water change time which is EVERY week, sometimes twice a week if I can be bothered.

If you are losing fish something is going on...what are their symptoms before they die?
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i have 2 oscars 1 pleco and 2 crayfish one red one blue. i use a liquid test kit, temp is always around 79. the oscars would sit at the bottem on their sides and my pleco would look like their scales were coming off and red was showing, maybe like a ammonia burn or something. that was a month and half ago, now they just seem tired at times and other times swimming so i'm just worried when i see something different with their mannerisms. since i had those problems its been water change every saturday like clockwork. thanks about cleaning filters i didn't know that.
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