Moody teenager. Or something more serious?

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daddadoo7 replied the topic: Re:Moody teenager. Or something more serious?

I feed capone nls float, hikari gold mainly and a mix of fd krill, omega one shrimp pellets, omega one super color sinking , omega one veggie pellets.
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Lammergeier replied the topic: Re:Moody teenager. Or something more serious?

Going by what you've said I think you are overfeeding him. I give my RD who's about 10 inches long (guessing an inch or two larger than Thor) only enough food that she can gulp down in about 30s, and Henry only gets 3 - 4 pellets (or equivalent) per day unless he goes glutton-mode and steals food off the SDs. I'd definitely start rotating foods around, but you'd be surprised how much O's sulk if they're overfed so just feeding less might be all you need to do. I know with Henry that sulking almost always means that he's eaten too much the night before.

If it helps, I feed Henry Hikari gold/biogold, FD krill, thawed prawns, peas, zucchini, sinking pellets, carnivore sticks (treat), veggie pellets (steals them off Adie and the SDs), algae discs (steals them), and tropical colour sticks (treat). Bloodworms/brine shrimp/flake foods are either nutritionally deficient or too small (though you can crush up the spirulina and put it on wet food to get some fibre into them). I tend to give a treat once a fortnight or so, veggies at least once a week, a meaty food at least once a week, and he has one starve day each week so he rarely eats the same thing 2 days in a row.

You should definitely get him some more things to rearrange :laugh:
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UNC-CH replied the topic: Moody teenager. Or something more serious?

I used to feed my first Oscar (when I was a teenager) like that. I'd drop several pellets in and he'd take his time eating them if he ate them at all.
With my current Oscar, I feed him four large hikari gold pellets one at a time and wait until he finishes one before giving him the next one. On the rare occasion when he chews and spits most of it out, he doesn't get anymore. After the four pellets, I feed him one large krill (shrimp) or one cricket. Sometimes I'll feed him an omega algae wafer. But I never feed him unless he acts like he's really hungry.
Oscars are different, but yours may not be enthusiastic because the food seems too easy for him. Maybe try feeding him one pellet at a time and see what happens after a few days.
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AZ Steve replied the topic: Moody teenager. Or something more serious?

First...nice looking O. The chinple(kinda what we call it) is normal Sarge got one when he dug alot and it would get red and irritated looking. As far as him moving stuff around...It's his tank and he will put stuff where he wants it lol. Sarge does this all the time. I had a corner of my lid that had a chip out of it(sharp glass) Sarge cut his lip on this going for a pellet...Now. he won't even think about eating a pellet thats in that corner.(I fixed it after that of course) if you O smacked himself good coming up to get food he might be remembering that.
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DRACO replied the topic: Moody teenager. Or something more serious?

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few things:
does your fish always rest on its side?
doesn't it moves substrate?
how is the breathing?

the one that worry me is the tilting on its side while resting....
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purplecandle replied the topic: Moody teenager. Or something more serious?

Couple things I would try is

A background to make him feel more secure
Less light
Putting a smooth, flat stone in the corner he likes to dig
More food variation
And I would completely change the decor (mainly because I'm picky about decor, but also to help with boredom)

Otherwise, that's a beautiful Oscar!
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DRACO wrote: tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/28/51109c6486f26a427e81d7dd9a04e1c4.jpg

few things:
does your fish always rest on its side?
doesn't it moves substrate?
how is the breathing?

the one that worry me is the tilting on its side while resting....


Hey everyone!thanksso much for replying with your advice! I will reply better to everyone once I'm not running late for work...oops.

But I did want to take the time to address you Draco, incase this is something serious with Thor. Yes he quite often does that. He doesn't sleep like that but he does like to turn sideways along the bottom of his tank quite often. He really has done this as a baby. Then he only liked to do it when he was beside a plant, i have pictures of it somewhere I'll have to dig up and post, now he does it randomly everywhere. He has built up a rather large hill with the gravel before the clearing so what you're seeing in the picture is something he does somewhat often. He'll swim up and over the hill gliding down into the clearing where he will turn to one side or the other, (not always the same side).
His breathing is fine (I'm hoping) no excess gill movement or anything. I'll take another vid of him next time I'm home.
And yes he has moved a whole corners worth of substrate, the plants too. And he tried the heater but I moved it out of his way for him, he doesn't need to touch that.
Is this something I need to be concerned about?

Oh! And sometimes I'll walk up on him 'laying' (he's not actually touching the bottem) on his side in that spot and he will hurry up and right himself and swim towards me like I wasn't supposed to see him doing that. I always laughed at the behavior, I hope it isn't anything too serious. Thanks for pointing it out though!
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Nyx replied the topic: Moody teenager. Or something more serious?

Ok thank you for the food/feeding tips lammergeier and unc-ch. after I hold off on food for a few days I'll get some different stuff for him and do more of a variety.
@steve- glad to hear the redness is normal. You can't see it on tiger oscars so I wanted to double check that it was normal. Also yeah I love getting up everyday and seeing what is different in thor's tank. I actually got him 2 more plants today to 'play' with. Lastly I think he is remembering hitting his head. I'm pretty sure he did it twice over two days and it was loud, so I'm sure it hurt. Did sarge ever get over this? Or rather how long has it been since he hurt himself to still shying away from that area?
@purplecandle - ok, I've looked up stuff like laminated construction paper so I may do something tacky like that for a while. I did get him 2 new plants today so hopefully that will help too,. I've been trying to get a hold of a piece of slate to lay there but I've had no luck with it yet :/


Thanks everyone for your help! I hope this all helps, and I hope him liking to lay on his side isn't anything serious :unsure:
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