hole in head disease?

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casiej259 replied the topic: hole in head disease?

they were in a 75 gallon there, we got the tank and fish for free. they said they loved them SO much but clearly they didn't.

yes, it was. we took the water from their tank (disgusting water) and from ours that is cycled.

They are about 15 inches long each.
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Suprd71 replied the topic: hole in head disease?

A point on cycling.. its not water that is cycled. The bacteria that is needed to maintained a cycled tank lives in your filter media. Taking water from one tank or another does not aid the process. You need established filters with a mature bacteria colony to instantly process the ammonia produced by fish respiration and waste production.


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casiej259 replied the topic: Re:hole in head disease?

I know that....we have filters from their tank before everything they had before is in there now. Im not new at this, I just know nothing about hole in the head.
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"yes, it was. we took the water from their tank (disgusting water) and from ours that is cycled."

This is not how you cycle a filter. People make the statement "My aquarium is cycled".....this is an erroneus idea......it is not the aquarium that you are intending to cycle, but rather the filter. When you transfer water from one tank to another, you are doing nothing but transferring dirty (& very possibly disease/parasite laden) water to the new tank.

What should have been done is you should have taken existing filter media from an established biological filter & transferred that to a new biological filter, to help speed up the cycling process, OR moved a cycled filter to the new tank.

Again, what are you using to test the water? And exactly what filtration do you have on the tank w/ the sick Oscars?

Unfortunately, the "up-sizing" should have been done beforehand. Keeping 2 Oscars that are as sick as these 2 obviously are in the confines of a 75GL is really self-defeating. Their immune systems are already compromised, & keeping them in such close proximity to one another combined w/ the waste load they constantly generate will stress them out even further.....which is why they contracted HITH/LLE & acid burns in the 1st place. If you can't get a minimum 125GL aquarium very soon, I would suggest you go out & purchase a 75GL Rubbermaid tote, drop a sponge filter in that, & do daily 100% WC's on both of them. The lack of pristine H2O is what caused this, & only giving them pristine H2O will cure this.

EDIT: Took me a while to compose what I wrote, saw that Suprd71 is stating basically the same thing I did. Not harping on you, just informing what you need to do to be successful in curing this. If you're "not new" at this, then you should have some idea of what are the root causes of HITH/LLE, & if you want to reverse this condition, then please take advantage of the decades of experience we can offer you here. I would hope that you take our advice purely for what it is.....sound advice, from people that want nothing more than to see you & your fish thrive, by giving them the best possible conditions.

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UNC-CH replied the topic: hole in head disease?

To help them with HITH, you'll need to keep them in clean water. It's that simple. Of course, that means a lot of large water changes often. Some people use medicine for HITH, but without clean water no amount of medicine will help.

If you don't have an API liquid test kit, I'd encourage you to get one. You'll need to keep an eye on your nitrate levels so you'll know how often you'll need to change the water.

I'm glad to hear you're taking care of these oscars. If you can possibly put one in another 75 or move them both to a larger tank, it will make a huge difference in their recovery.
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DMD123 replied the topic: Re:hole in head disease?

casiej259 wrote: When we received them they said they would only eat mealworms...we got them settled in last night and they ate omega one shrimp and large pellets.

Diet too can contribute to the issue. A diet of just mealworms was not the greatest choice and probably led to a lot of deficiencies. Good idea to get it on a nutritious high quality pellet and as suggested to soak foods in vitamins.
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