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Hey there fellow Oscar lovers! In my profile pic is my Oscar about 2-3 weeks ago. He looks very much the same now. Being new to keeping an Oscar, I am understandably nervous about any diseases as this O is an absolute BEAST and i love it.
I have had him for about 6 months or so, and he is roughly 4-6 inches.

Heres my question. He has this white patch above his gills, on both sides, its symmetrical pretty much. I didnt really think anything of it so I did not do much but keep an eye on it. It may be getting bigger but its not like a hole, its just a white spot. I believe you can see it in the picture there. He also has these tiny white patches, and maybe like 2 or 3 of em, on his head. The thing that gets me is these white patches do NOT look deep, and also have clusters on pinholes, which are sensory pits above his eyes. Lately though and i dont think its in that picture, lately I have noticed his lateral line has begun to get white, almost like a stitching job done on a sewing machine but its white, if that makes sense. Then it went away after a week! I dont get it, its making me paranoid... and i cant find any vitachem or any of that stuff here, so ive just kept an eye on it and fed him a variety or so i think of foods.
I give him life spectrum cichlid pellets, nutrafin max krill and shrimp meal, frozen blood worms and occasionally some tropical fish flakes(because i have a pleco with him and i feel i need to throw in some crunched flakes just to feed the damn thing) and has also stolen some algae wafers.
now for the question, IS THIS HITHLLE or not? I know if it is, its early stages.

I am looking for an answer, and if no answer is there but a preventative one for HITH id take that. I need to know what i can do that wont harm him say if he didnt have it but would benefit him if he did.

Brand new to Oscarfishlover, this site is awesome as ive read it before, and i cant wait to get my Oscar lookin good up on here. Cheers
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face mcshooty replied the topic: NEED HELP Oscar Fish HITH LLE?

i can't really see anything on your profile picture it's a bit too small if you can upload the picture to photobucket and then post a link on here that would be helpful

other then that you can answer a few questions how big is your tank? is it just the oscar and pleco or is there more? how often do you change your water and how much each time and did you cycle your tank

and of course welcome to oscar fish lovers :)

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Welcome to our little community. Okay, I can't see the photo properly, it's just too small. The best thing to do is take a good photograph, upload it to photo bucket and then put the photo onto this thread so we can see it properly. Once we can examine the fish we can give you an idea of what could be wrong, or if there is nothing to worry about.

The easiest way to prevent hole in the head is to keep on top of your tank maintenance, this means changing water regularly so that it's in good condition, free from toxins and low nitrate levels. Also, a good-quality die is also very important, stay away from feeders and feed a good-quality pellets as the main diet. It's also paramount that you keep your fish in a tank that is big enough for it, accompanied with suitable filtration that will remove all the toxins quickly.

If you don't know how to use photo bucket then please say and someone will explain, alternatively there is some information on the forum somewhere that explains in detail how to do it, it's very very easy and it's free as well.

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No idea how to use photo bucket!

As for my tank setup and what not, of course I cycled. As far as water changes I wish i did more often, but i do them semi regularly, probably once every two weeks. Im just not on a schedule. Ph level is adequate, and temp is at 28c right now. Tank is 30 gallons.

Yea i realize 50 gallons is ideal, but oh well for now. I have another 30 gallon which he used to be in with African cichlids, bad idea. But the O is such a beast he ended up asserting himself and eating a Demasoni lol.

I will try to grab pictures tonight, one more auestion. Would flash from my phone damage my oscars eyes at all? Would be a great pic but I am very careful not to mess with him.
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KRrack replied the topic: NEED HELP Oscar Fish HITH LLE?

Ah, and about 25%-50% each time, and i make sure the temperature doesnt fluctuate too much. Yes it is just the pleco with him
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DMD123 replied the topic: NEED HELP Oscar Fish HITH LLE?

It would also help to check your water parameters. Do you have a test kit? If not take a sample of water to your local fish store and many will test it for free. Once you have your parameters you will be able to get a course of action going. Likely just need to increase frequency and volume in water changes.
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KRrack wrote: No idea how to use photo bucket!

As for my tank setup and what not, of course I cycled. As far as water changes I wish i did more often, but i do them semi regularly, probably once every two weeks. Im just not on a schedule. Ph level is adequate, and temp is at 28c right now. Tank is 30 gallons.

Yea i realize 50 gallons is ideal, but oh well for now.





After reading your replies, I wouldn't be surprised at all if this Oscar had HITH, or some other serious malady. You state you know the tank is too small & you don't do nearly enough water changes.....so why would you keep an Oscar? If you don't want to keep them in proper conditions & don't wish to do the required maintenance, why do you have one? The "I don't care I'm going to do things my way" attitude really doesn't work when dealing with a live animal. :pinch:


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WATER CHANGES ARE THE LIFEBLOOD OF THIS HOBBY. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE SO OR SIMPLY DON'T FEEL LIKE DOING THEM, RE-HOME YOUR FISH, SELL YOUR AQUARIUM & FIND ANOTHER HOBBY, AS YOU WILL FAIL UTTERLY, COMPLETELY, & MISERABLY.
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face mcshooty replied the topic: NEED HELP Oscar Fish HITH LLE?

i strongly suggest you increase your water changes and get a much bigger tank (around 125 gallons or so) or just rehome the fish because nothing but stunted growth and death awaits those fish if they stay in that tank

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KRrack wrote: No idea how to use photo bucket!

As for my tank setup and what not, of course I cycled. As far as water changes I wish i did more often, but i do them semi regularly, probably once every two weeks. Im just not on a schedule. Ph level is adequate, and temp is at 28c right now. Tank is 30 gallons.

Yea i realize 50 gallons is ideal, but oh well for now.





After reading your replies, I wouldn't be surprised at all if this Oscar had HITH, or some other serious malady. You state you know the tank is too small & you don't do nearly enough water changes.....so why would you keep an Oscar? If you don't want to keep them in proper conditions & don't wish to do the required maintenance, why do you have one? The "I don't care I'm going to do things my way" attitude really doesn't work when dealing with a live animal. :pinch:




I do not appreciate yor reply, the fact that my Oscar literally has no symptoms other then POSSIBLY a couple white patches which i havent determined if they are scars as he has scratched himself before. I keep a close eye on him, feed him well and look after his water greatly.
That being said I should do more frequent changes, and im working on that.

Anyways, this is my personal prolem with social media, me saying "i know 50 gallons is ideal, but oh well for now" somehow translates through your screen to I dont give a shit about my Oscar..

This fish is my baby. I will do what i need to do to keep this fish healthy and active for years to come.
I came here for help, not criticism. I know my Oscar better then you do. His behaviour is all normal, he eats fine, hes growig at a good rate, and the water is clean. You know how many people ive met who NEVER do water changes and their Oscars grew to full size and somehow thrive?? I mean i don't understand that, but i have seen it first hand. I am keepin much better care of my Oscar then many many others. The fact that im here proves it.

Sorry to get a little defensive, but you offered absolutely no help to me and just basically told me I dont give a shit. You don't know me. Thanks

Im also pretty damn sure 30 gallons is a great sized tank for my Oscar, and he had lots of room and his own cave territory. Sure, id love a 50 gallon, but i simply do not have the room at this moment and have other tanks in my room. As for anyone else reading this, pictures will be available tomorrow, and then maybe a judgement can be made of what my Oscar looks to have, or not have. Peace

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Your tank is half the size your oscar needs and he will suffer for it. It isn't a matter of if, it's a matter of when. If you are willing to do what you need to do to keep this fish healthy and active then 1: you need a 55 gal (or larger) tank immediately just for your oscar alone, 2: You need to up your w/cs to 75% per week, 3: You need to get (and regularly use) a freshwater test kit, and 4: You need to do a lot of reading up on how to properly care for a fish as large and as messy as an oscar. If you don't at least do 1 and 2 then your O is a prime candidate for HITH (if he doesn't have it already), as well as stunting and other health problems.

I don't know how to make this clearer, but I'll try: Without a much bigger tank and large water changes you won't be able to keep your oscar's water clean enough to keep it alive and healthy for any significant period of time. These fish live for 10+ years and yours is already undersized for how long you've had it, so it is already starting to suffer from the conditions you keep it in. You are making it spend all its time swimming in its own waste. How healthy do you think any animal would be if it had to do that?

Help and constructive criticism go hand in hand. People here want the best for your fish, and yes, judging by your reaction I'm echoing Darth's sentiment - if you don't want to get a larger tank and don't want to do the required maintenance then why DO you have an oscar? Furthermore, if you know your oscar better than us (because somehow your oscar's physical needs are different to all other oscars) then why are you here?
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