Sick Oscar, Fungus?

  • Posts: 4511
  • Karma: 1
  • Thank you received: 254

DRACO replied the topic: Sick Oscar, Fungus?

Rocksor wrote: As long as the fish is still eating and acting healthy, I wouldn't give up either.


at some point in my fishkeeping, one of my fish developed furuncolosis, i was able to cure it using +gram and -gram medicine. However, the disease recur a year later and died...

yes, that should be our goal, learn from our sick fish and help others when same case happen...
#405545

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Posts: 1053
  • Thank you received: 196

UNC-CH replied the topic: Sick Oscar, Fungus?

If you're going to try other antibiotics next, I'd try to administer them orally. You've already treated the water with antibiotics and there was no improvement or not much improvement. Doxycycline would be a goid choice to use orally.

I'd also look into 5% solution salt baths for short periods of time (30 seconds). I understand you've had high levels of salt in the water before, but that is nothing close to a 5% solution.
#405547

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • DMD123
  • DMD123's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Gold Boarder
  • Gold Boarder
  • Posts: 1582
  • Thank you received: 187

DMD123 replied the topic: Sick Oscar, Fungus?

Today was a water change day with carbon being added to remove any trace meds. Tomorrow will be another water change and then I will proceed with the new meds for about 5 days and see how it goes.

I have been very reluctant to catch and force feed this guy because he is not even close to deaths door. Plus all the catching and baths start to wear on the fish with all kinds of scrapes and then he usually will go off feeding. I already feel that this three month process of meds has slowed down his growth significantly. If at the end of the next round of meds I don't see improvement I will start with oral meds.

Really at the point where there are not many options left, especially since I said I was " done" and then dropped another $100 in meds. Granted some of those were to restock supplies but it can easily be said that I have spent $300 in meds at this point. That is saying meds were purchased online and I had reduced the water level during treatment to stretch meds out. Ever price triple sulfa? $17 at petsmart that would treat the tank for two days with the water level at 50g. I bought it online for $7 instead. Doxy was $40 online..... So you can begin to see how this could all get expensive. So oral treatment will follow just because I'm done for real financially. Lol, really I am!
#405556

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Posts: 3036
  • Thank you received: 266

daddadoo7 replied the topic: Re:Sick Oscar, Fungus?

Geeez david this is crazy...sorry man
#405562
The following user(s) said Thank You: DMD123

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • DMD123
  • DMD123's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Gold Boarder
  • Gold Boarder
  • Posts: 1582
  • Thank you received: 187

DMD123 replied the topic: Sick Oscar, Fungus?

Thanks Frank. It tough because the fish acts healthy and the meds have been hit and miss, and miss again. Most of the meds have been for gram negative stuff but the new round should also tackle some gram positive. Though I think the doxy was also supposed to take care of some gram positive... oh well. Still plugging away at this.
#405563

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Posts: 1053
  • Thank you received: 196

UNC-CH replied the topic: Sick Oscar, Fungus?

I understand what you're saying about the stress to the fish. I'd do just about anything not to have to net my oscar. I know how much time, energy and money you've put into this. Some people would have given up on Chunk by now and I'm happy you haven't. He's one of my favorite fish.

I was thinking about your giving him food with doxycycline mixed into it. I was under the impression that you had treated the water with it.

There are instructions for mixing doxycycline into food on this older thread. It's the second post.

forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?71814-Doxycycline-Dose-Rate

A pound is a lot of food, so for less that would be:

2 teaspoons doxy per 16 oz food , mixed with 2 oz water, or
1 teaspoon doxy per 8 oz food, mixed with 1 oz water, or
1/2 teaspoon doxy per 4 oz food, mixed with 1/2 oz water, or
1/4 teaspoon doxy per 2 oz food, mixed with 1/4 oz water

Hope this helps.
#405567
The following user(s) said Thank You: DMD123

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • DMD123
  • DMD123's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Gold Boarder
  • Gold Boarder
  • Posts: 1582
  • Thank you received: 187

DMD123 replied the topic: Sick Oscar, Fungus?

Yep, I had run a minimum course of doxy/kanaplex in the tank with no results so I stopped. So I still have a bit left to mix into food. I appreciate the link and mix ratios!
#405569

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • DMD123
  • DMD123's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Gold Boarder
  • Gold Boarder
  • Posts: 1582
  • Thank you received: 187

DMD123 replied the topic: Sick Oscar, Fungus?

Woke up and did a water change before the next round of meds. Chunk looks the same, still covered in this stuff. You can not even tell that I just did 9 days of anything. If you were to look at him you would think I abuse him by letting it get so far, but I have been trying so many different treatments it is getting to the point where there are only a couple of options I have not tried yet.

Today with the first round of meds I had to put in the largest dose and tomorrow I do not change the water and add my second dose. I am supposed to treat for five days even if things start to look better. I am supposed to do the full treatment cycle, which I will do. Then if no results I am going for the doxy/kana mix again but this time force fed into the fish as opposed to water treatment.
#405597

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • DMD123
  • DMD123's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Gold Boarder
  • Gold Boarder
  • Posts: 1582
  • Thank you received: 187

DMD123 replied the topic: Sick Oscar, Fungus?

Added the second dose of meds today and looked like this treatment is not doing anything. I will do the minimum course of meds which is five days but not hopeful. Very frustrating to not see results. Many of these meds are supposed to be easy for the fish to assimilate through their skin but so far nothing of noteworthy improvement. Since I had seen zero improvement with doxy and kanaplex previously I dont even know if taken orally if it will help. The one thing that has seemed consistent is that any bath or water treatment has prove ineffective, so treating from the inside seems the best idea.
#405634

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Posts: 93
  • Thank you received: 4

bskelton0907 replied the topic: Re:Sick Oscar, Fungus?

Wow sorry to hear man. Sounds like one of them things you got to find a cocktail of meds that work to get rid of it but the only problem with that is that its rough on the fish. Would adding salt help? Adding salt can help him shed the fungus from his slim coat
#405639
The following user(s) said Thank You: DMD123

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Moderators: Big-KenDRACO
Time to create page: 0.104 seconds